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Vicious and narcissist Gran

(33 Posts)
Meg7 Sun 19-May-13 17:09:58

Dear Grans, I am a loving mum and gran, nothing makes me happier that when the little ones come and visit. But I think the reason why it works so well with my daughter is because I let her be independant and she's appreciative and hence by not always asking her to come and visit, she spontaneously comes! I've just read a book called Kiss of Thorns, by Lilliane Rosse (was on amazon kindle) and I never came across such an appauling story. It's about a vicious and narcissistic gran that tries to take her little children away from her daughter, for the only reason that she does not love her son in law. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? What is her own mother tried to do that to her, how would she have felt? I highly recommend the read, i've enjoyed it very much!

gracesmum Sun 19-May-13 18:26:41

Is this a cheeky little advertisement for the book in question?? [cynical] emoticon
If it is such an appalling story, how come you enjoyed it so much, Meg7? hmm Sounds eminently missable to me!

Marelli Sun 19-May-13 18:52:25

And if it was a why get so worked up about it? hmm

Grannyknot Sun 19-May-13 18:54:14

Dear Meg7 - nothing in your post makes me want to read that book! If If nothing else, it sounds way too far fetched. #fail

Nelliemoser Sun 19-May-13 18:54:14

I have encountered some really difficult mum/gran situations over the years.
The scenario is often a very young mum living with babies Grandma. It seems that some Grans then take over the care of the baby feeling/suggesting that the babies mum does not do enough or does it all wrong.
I suspect somewhere in this situation a Gran unconsciously feels this is a last chance of having another child for herself, or that the mum still feels she is a child in the house and looks to Gran to look after her an the baby. When the babies mum wants to move out because she can't get a look in with her own child the babies Gran complains mum can't look after her child properly and power struggles ensue. Families are complicated.
Worse seems to be a mum and grandmother both seemingly trying to outdo each other caring for a son/grandson! How to screw up your kids!

Ariadne Sun 19-May-13 18:55:42

I don't undestand why there are two posts on this subject? Having said that, what a difficult situation.

Grannyknot Sun 19-May-13 19:00:24

nellie slightly different situation, but I do remember when I was younger the gossip around our town about a mum who encouraged her adult daughter's affair with a very much married man because (or so the gossip went) that way she could be sure her daughter wouldn't move out and leave her alone. As you say how to screw up your kids ...

annodomini Sun 19-May-13 19:10:41

I have just looked it up on Amazon to confirm that it is actually fiction. The OP makes it sound like a 'true life' work. It has not been reviewed yet which suggests that it has not attracted many readers and I can't help agreeing with Gracesmum that this could be an attempt to drum up trade. Can't say I am attracted to it.

YaYaJen Sun 19-May-13 19:15:02

Life can always top fiction, my mother applied to take my daughter off me, won't go into reasons but had frequent visits of social services after that, grilling my daughter, looking in my fridge/freezer everything, every aspect of our lives....eventually before a panel they decided that my daughter and I had a strong, loving, healthy relationship and my mothers fear were foundless....

NannaAnna Sun 19-May-13 21:42:10

Doesn't sound like a book I'd remotely want to read Meg7!

Gorki Sun 19-May-13 22:18:43

I skimmed through the first chapter and it was horrible . All I can say is that it is crude in every sense of the word. The style is immature and is not a book I would want to read.

gracesmum Sun 19-May-13 22:35:56

I have had a look at it too - just published so I am more suspicious then ever! What a load of tosh!!! Cliches R Us could be its sub title! Good try, Meg7 but you can't pull the wool over these grannies' eyes that easily !!! grin

Galen Sun 19-May-13 23:23:01

I note GNHQ have deleted a second thread on the same book. Should this be deleted also? GNHQ please answer!

j08 Sun 19-May-13 23:29:08

Why? smile It is quite possible that the original poster is a Gransnetter simply recommending a book. It is also possible that she is Lilliane Rosse cleverly disguised. Who knows? grin

Gorki Mon 20-May-13 08:33:20

Perhaps Meg7 could return to defend herself/himself.

Thistledoo Mon 20-May-13 09:01:35

Sounds depressing, couldnt bear to read such a book. Why would an author wish to publish such load of sad rubbish. Wont be reading it.

Gorki Mon 20-May-13 09:36:23

Could this thread be moved? It is not really about grandparenting. More about a book that nobody seems very keen on. confused

glammanana Mon 20-May-13 09:56:05

Definatley not a book I would give up my valuable time to read.

j08 Mon 20-May-13 11:13:33

Well I've just skim read the first three chapters on Amazon. Sounds like an amateur first (and probably only) book. Nothing to get worked up about.

In fact it could be a good illustration of a woman (the mother) with some kind of psychosis. Perhaps it's from real life experience.

Would be good if the original poster came back and told us more. smile

j08 Mon 20-May-13 11:15:14

Certainly don't think Meg7 needs to "defend herself"!

gracesmum Mon 20-May-13 11:35:55

Well surely only to say she is genuine? If promoting a book becasue you/yourDD/DH/SIL/dog has just published their foirst book - why not say so on the proper thread?? Sneaky ad is what I thought and I hold to that.

j08 Mon 20-May-13 11:38:47

Needs must when the devil calls. grin #sneakycanbegood

gracesmum Mon 20-May-13 11:59:42

Ends justifying means? I don't agree. Sneaky insults intelligence, why not be upfront?

j08 Mon 20-May-13 12:01:07

Perhaps she would have had to pay thirty quid? grin

gracesmum Mon 20-May-13 12:05:20

Well that is the standard and consequently legitimate charge for advertising - isn't it?