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How can I help my daughter?

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madq Wed 14-Jan-15 15:32:15

My daughter has one adorable little boy and has just found out she is expecting another little boy. She was desperate for a little girl and to say she is disappointed is a huge understatement. I was hoping that she would accept the situation and realise how lucky she is to have two healthy children. They are comfortably off (again she is very lucky!) and there are no financial reasons why they cannot try for a third baby (I myself had two boys before my daughter came along) but she says she will not be able to contemplate the possibility of a third boy. I am trying very hard to be understanding, but sometimes have to bite my tongue and stop myself telling her to be thankful for what she has got. Has anyone else been in this situation?

loopylou Wed 14-Jan-15 18:19:47

I think it's difficult madq to remain neutral but that's what I'd suggest, as whatever you say could be misconstrued by her if at the moment this is how she's feeling.
She could well feel very different once she's closer to having the baby, it is very unusual for a new mum to reject a baby, I've never come across it.
You're going to need the patience of Job, I'm afraid! [
flowers] &wine for you x!

Mishap Wed 14-Jan-15 18:26:31

I do sympathise with you madq - it is always difficult when we disagree about something our children feel or say and it must be even more difficult when it is about something so very fundamental to us - our dear grandchildren!

As loopy says - patience! Good luck.

janerowena Wed 14-Jan-15 18:41:53

No it's not a new phenomenon, I have known women in the past who were disappointed with the sex of their children, but of them all, only one went on to be pretty unfair to her daughter. I was so angry with her one day, when she said that she preferred her (younger) son to her daughter and had only ever wanted boys. I said 'I hope you have never let on how you feel to her' (the child was nine at the time) and she replied, 'Of course I have'! I'm afraid I couldn't ever speak to her again.

This was because my own mother had always wanted a boy, and had four girls and lost one boy. We all felt unworthy. I asked her about ten years ago why she had hoped that we would all be boys, and she replied in amazement that she loved us all being girls, but knew that our father would have loved a son. Maybe it would be worth asking why she feels like she does. Also, maybe it's her hormones making her more upset about it than she would be normally. It's so sad, I do hope she manages to get over it.

GrannyTwice Wed 14-Jan-15 18:44:56

There are threads on Mumsnet about gender disappointment which you/ your daughter might find helpful or you could post on there yourself asking for advice.

soontobe Wed 14-Jan-15 19:17:57

You say that she has just founbd out that she is expecting another little boy.
Maybe she just needs time to be ok about it.

thatbags Wed 14-Jan-15 19:19:42

Sorry you find my comments unhelpful, mad. I think I would have found such an approach helpful myself had it ever been necessary and I doubt if any of my daughters would be surprised if I told them to stop being silly in such a situation. I hope all goes well with the pregnancy and birth and that the child brings joy to its parents.

thatbags Wed 14-Jan-15 19:22:47

One can say Don't be silly kindly.

Anya Wed 14-Jan-15 19:24:09

My advice would be say nothing. Your DD needs to come to terms with this on her own.

Anya Wed 14-Jan-15 19:25:03

Let's hope this is the worst she has to worry about.

Leticia Wed 14-Jan-15 19:25:30

I think it is such a shame that they find out first-it would be much better to wait and fall in love with the baby they actually have!
People have so much choice they expect it in everything.
I am afraid I have little sympathy-I would tell her the odds were only ever 50% and then tell her to count her blessings!
I think it wonderful that people can't choose. The next thing they would want is the 'right sort of girl' i.e the one who is going to be mother's best friend-another thing that you can't tell-it is all pure luck!!
I have a friend who tells me that it is sad that I will never experience the mother/daughter bond-she seems to gloss over the fact she doesn't get on with her own daughter.
If she does start a thread about gender disappointment on MN she needs to take care where she puts it and not on AIBU as a lot of people will point out, in no uncertain terms that she is.
However-OP I should put all that diplomatically. I do hope that she can get over it as soon as she sees the baby.

Leticia Wed 14-Jan-15 19:27:38

I think that Anya has the best advice.

loopylou Wed 14-Jan-15 19:32:52

I don't think it would help if you pointed out that her DBH is to blame, as the male determines the baby's sex hmm.....

numberplease Wed 14-Jan-15 21:43:27

I had 3 girls first, in the days before you could find out the sex beforehand, and when my MIL came to visit me in hospital the day the 3rd one was born, her first remark was "Oh no, not another girl!" She had 12 grandchildren at the time, and only 3 were boys, there were more later, but she made me feel awful. We went on to have 2 boys after that, and she had 8 grandsons in the end, out of 18 grandchildren.

Purpledaffodil Wed 14-Jan-15 22:01:24

I agree with previous posters that this problem is caused by knowing the gender before the actual baby is in your arms. Then you love the baby not the idea of a particular gender. My third pregnancy after two boys was a surprise, but I decided that the third would be a boy too ( my grandmother had 7 boys consecutively and then four girls too) The ultimate surprise was when the midwife told me to stop referring to that little girl as "he".
At the risk of sounding smug or unkind, I agree that a certain amount of tough love is necessary. Too much sympathy and the OP daughter may well feel encouraged to reject this child.

Leticia Wed 14-Jan-15 22:19:54

It depends on OP's relationship with her DD. I get on really well with my mother, but she would have given me very short shrift over something like that. Sometimes it is just better to tell it how it is and with a 50/50 chance you are better not having one if the gender is really important.

Leticia Wed 14-Jan-15 22:20:56

They could be wrong of course- I have known it happen!

Kiora Wed 14-Jan-15 22:23:04

It just goes to show that technology does have its drawbacks. This is one of them. In our day we would have been dissapointed for just a short time then would have come to terms with things fairly quickly and fallen in love with our baby. I think you need to be kind to your daughter.You can bring out all those old cliques but I doubt they'll be helpful. She's probably racked with guilt as well as dissapointment. I hope she feels differently when your grandson is born if not it will be rocky for a while but when he does that little 'dance' babies do (you know, they lock on to your eyes, you lock on to theirs they smile and your filled with an incredible feeling of love) she will fall in love with him. You may have to do a lot of babysitting of your oldest grandchild to facilitate your daughters bonding with her baby but I'm sure all will be well in time. Let us know how things pan out and keep biting that tongue and gently reassuring her.

Deedaa Wed 14-Jan-15 22:39:01

The sad thing is that if she had a little girl it might not be the sort of little girl she's imagining. I spent all my primary school years wanting to be a boy and dressing as much like one as you could in the early 50's. I played with guns and trains and always played with the boys at school. I didn't turn female till puberty kicked in. There were certainly no pretty dresses. doll's tea parties or any nice little girls coming to play!

I had a boy and a girl but all three grandchildren are boys and they're all lovely!

rosequartz Wed 14-Jan-15 23:30:35

DD1 was so desperately ill after she had DGS that it has been impossible for her to have another child.
I think she would have been happy to have had a football team of boys (or of girls) but alas it is not to be.
Tell her to count her blessings.
Or put a label on him like Paddington Bear. We will collect him.

Sorry but this makes me sad

Flowerofthewest Thu 15-Jan-15 00:03:00

Agree with thatbags so many people want children and cannot conceive or lose the baby for many reasons. She should be thankful to have another healthy boy on the way.

Surely tell her to count her blessings and point out the many pleasures her first born has given her. My DiL has two little boys and I know would like a girl but sense prevailed and they are having no more (my DS has to estranged children from his first marriage) Enjoy what you have I am sure she will fall in love with him once he is born.

Tegan Thu 15-Jan-15 01:01:30

I think you need to talk her through the reasons for her disappointment. For example is it just that she wants to buy pretty clothes for the baby? Or that she feels she won't be [looking into the distant future] involved in her daughters wedding or not so involved with the birth of her grandchildren. You can then talk her through those things and point out things that she may not have even thought of. She may not even know in her own mind why she feels so disappointed in which case talking about it could be quite cathartic. Do you have another child? Perhaps your daughter always secretly longed for a sister and wanting a daughter is part of that feeling [you could then show her the thread where people point out that they didn't get on with their sisters anyway].

Tegan Thu 15-Jan-15 01:09:22

.....apologies; I didn't read the OP properly. So perhaps she did secretly long for a sister or felt swamped by brothers. Maybe her brothers fought a lot when they were teenagers and she can see that happening with her tow boys?? There's something at the bottom of it all if you can just talk her through it, I'm sure.

grannyactivist Thu 15-Jan-15 01:39:22

I'm guessing your daughter found out the baby's gender at her twenty week scan in which case she's only half way through the pregnancy and there is plenty of time for her to get used to having another boy. At this stage I really wouldn't worry about it too much madq; being disappointed at this stage doesn't mean that she won't adore her new son when he's born.

ginny Thu 15-Jan-15 09:09:38

Madq Maybe the way to help her is to be blunt. It is obvious when you decide to have second or subsequent baby that the odds for each sex is around 50-50.

As others have said she should be thankful for a healthy child no matter what sex. Many would love the chance.

rosequartz Thu 15-Jan-15 09:37:24

I used to think that I loved DC1 so much I could never love another baby in the same way. Then someone told me that each baby arrives with its own bundle of love - I am sure that this little one will bring enough with him.

Sorry if my previous post was blunt, but people who have suffered constant miscarriages and/or the loss of a child, or who cannot have children, will not understand this attitude.