Everything has gone to pot!

Sorry if someone else has written the this before but children hiding to do a poo in their nappies is a normal stage in many children's toilet training. They will often hide behind a chair or similar, and in your case the broom cupboard. They will also wait until they have a nappy on, usually at night to do the poo.

It is as your GD said, she feels too small to sit on the potty and having all that brown stuff coming out of her is also frightening and puzzling.

One method some people find works is to cut a hole in a nappy and then sit the child on the potty or toilet. With a toilet you need a stool for the feet as it is not easy doing a poo with your feet just hanging down.

I sympathise with you about the 9 month toilet training, the babies are not trained but the mother learns that if she pots the baby after a meal it is very likely to poo or wee. Something in and something needs to come out. This goes all haywire as the child gets older and they have to learn to recognise the signal that they need to go and ask for the potty.

I think it helps in the summer if the child is allowed to run around outside and becomes aware of wetting on the ground not always easy if you don't have a garden. The modern nappies keep the child dry unlike the old towelling nappies so they are not aware of wetting

It certainly is a competitive area of parenting! My DGD seems to be following my own children in that she is rather resistent to the whole idea, and looks quite worried if we suggest she uses her potty. She is very forward in other ways with a huge vocabulary and feeding herself very tidily with her little knife and fork.
My late MIL said that my eldest son was 'thick and stupid' because he was still in nappies at two and a half - what a terrible thing to say about your own grandchild! Anyway, some years later when he graduated with a first class honours degree, I couldn't help giving her a rather smug and superior look
I am quite sure that it's best to wait until your child is ready and let them toilet train in their own time - it saves a lot of stress.

There's nothing like waiting for the right moment. It can come quite suddenly . Both my children and GCs, at about 2and a half just decided 'no more nappies' and that was it. No stress or accidents.
Its a good point made by another poster that it was a different world when we had to wash nappies with all that that involved. Modern nappies and pull ups were a revelation!
I remember my Grandmother trying to get me to hold DD aged 6 months, over a potty!

My oldest trained very quickly walked talked and was potty trained by 1 year old the younger son took much longer and was more difficult so no to children are the same . They'll do it at a pace comfortable to them as forefathers I really didn't listen to them

When we were attempting to train my GD to use her potty, we bought a sheet of sticky stars and every time she used it successfully she got to stick a star on the potty. She loved it and took great pleasure in showing it to all and sundry. It worked very well for her. She was 22 months at the time.

There comes a time when you have to stay in the house and do it. Busy working mums can't always manage that, so it gets left. It becomes a bit more of an issue when they are going to nursery school, so then it is worth giving it a couple of days of your time

When mine were young we were told not to even think about it until they turned two and that made sense. All three were trained in about a week except for the odd accident.
These days it's either very competitive or you read of children starting school still in pull-ups. Don't know how to use cutlery or dress themselves either. Grrrr.

Daphne the 4-5 yr old may well have physical problems such as bladder control even though he seemed to have no mental delay.
My GS who was 4 in March still wears pull ups at night though is usually dry in the morning. He was very slow to get dry during the day and had many accidents. He's only been dry during the day for about a year. He would ask for pants on one day and even though he'd been dry the day before would demand a pull up the next day. D didn't want to force the issue so let him decided.

I used "Toilet Training in Less than a Day" by Nathan H Azrin, (Amazon have it) and it worked for my two youngest, wish it had been around for the first two! Has instructions so you can tell when your child is ready, in essence the child trains a wetting doll to use the loo or potty and by association, trains themselves. Sounds bizarre, but it does work, even for boys! Daughter used it on her two as well.

Our grandson aged 2.5 is being potty trained. At home he was doing well but staying in our house for a months holiday he refused to use the toilets most times and went in his pull up pants. On a day out to Hatfield House we were miles from toilets investigating the tree Elizabeth the 1st was under when she heard she was queen and suddenly he asked for a toilet! Luckily after concerts the portaloos were still in place and he was happy with that. How about that for contra -suggestive?

My DD was highly articulate at an early age - but flatly refused to sit on a potty, or wear any of the pretty knickers I bought her. One day, edging up to three years old, she was discussing something like Einstein's theory of relativity with an elderly neighbour, with whom she used to chat daily, and as we turned to walk away the neighbour caught a glimpse of sagging terry nappy below her pretty dress and said involuntarily 'YOU are still in nappies? I would never have believed it!'. Madam stumped indoors, pulled the nappy off, and announced she would try the knickers. Job done. Thanks, neighbour (and I was joking about Einstein, of course)

Another little funny - my younger daughter then aged 2 and a half was very proudly in "big" pants and whilst browsing in a well known newsagents I heard a plaintive cry above everything "mummy - I done a wee in smiffs." She now has her own 11 & 8 year olds!

I wonder whether the stay-dry nappies used today remove the sensation of a soggy traditional nappy?
My dcs were both potty trained by 15 months, mainly because they became aware of soggy bums!

grannylyn65
Are you going to put it under the bed?

Definitely not to do with intelligence. My eldest son was very forward in talking but was hellish to potty train. I got worked up because of peer pressure and mil's sniping. Son no 2 was a doodle in comparison. Always advise parents to chill and take the lead of the child.

I wonder if they do 'adult' ones

My opinion is It's nothing to do with intelligence. Better to start a little later than forcing the issue too early, that way can somtimes cause nothing but emotional toilet trouble for years. Most toddlers give cues when their ready. It's often more difficult in the cold winter so success often depends on the toddlers month of birth. We generally say the spring/ summer after their 2nd birthday. So September/October children can be almost 21/2. Of course there are exceptions to the rule. The majority get it in the end?

Can I get one ?

Folding potties!! Who knew ?!

Our DGD had no intention of ever sitting on the potty for a few months when we first tried ... she was probably about 26 months or so. She suddenly took to sitting there and soon started to become potty trained. She is now about 31 months and seldom has an accident but still uses the pull-up pants overnights.

DD has a travel potty but if she forgets is we just take the bedroom one and she uses it in the car boot ... en suite cars, the latest thing!!!
The potty we use downstairs has a handle on the side and she gets to push it when she performs and gets a round of applause.

I remember leaving DD with my parents on a Saturday and picked her up on the Monday and she was toilet trained, day and night at 23 months! Obviously a gifted child!!!!!

Excellent, tanith, thank you.

Oh my I meant to add that the bags are really expensive but they are the same size as the fruit and veg bags they give away in Tesco they fit fine.

Maggiemaybe this is the one my grandson has..

www.amazon.co.uk/Potette-Plus-Travel-Potty-White/dp/B001RH2RW4/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1469976973&sr=8-1&keywords=travelling+potty

I left mine till they were two and a half, just getting on with it then because they weren't allowed at playgroup until they were fully trained. I remember it as being quick and easy, though that could be in the rosy glow of hindsight! My DGS have been left longer, until after their third birthdays. My DMIL would have been appalled. She was shocked at my lazy ways and was all for holding babies over a potty from day 1. I suppose she must have caught something in it occasionally!

I'm off now to google fold up potties, as DGS2 is in line for his training in the next week or so. I can't say I'll be sorry. He can put off having me change a stinky nappy for 20 minutes by claiming "I'm still doing it".

I meant to add those fold up potties also fit on a normal toilet seat for small bums .