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Any experience/advice for dealing with a wilful, rude 6 year old?

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mazza245 Wed 19-Oct-16 09:32:08

Hi, I'll try and keep this short but it's a long story. DD had a baby with useless dad who is not interested at all, asked if we would help and support but I never thought beyond going to school, didn't think we would still be so hands on at 6! GD is gorgeous but very wilful (gypsy blood from her father's side DD reckons) and has become very difficult to deal with sometimes. We've always done a lot, washing and ironing, most meals, etc. They even lived with us for nearly three years. Now moved a mile away but the house is still in a mess, can't afford to finish yet. DD works 20/30 miles away as a headmistress, a recent move (previous job was further away!) which is very very stressful and long hours so can't manage without us.

DD drops her off each morning to be fed, dressed and taken to school and we pick her up each afternoon and they eat with us more often than not. The house is not finished, she's just had a cooker installed but she gets home so tired and late, they eat rubbish if not our meals. It isn't what we envisaged for our retirement, we have an apartment in Portugal that we'd like to go to more often but our breaks are dictated by school.

The trouble is this child. I love her to bits but even her mum says she's hard work. It seems to be me mostly she has a problem with. I try and deal with her as I did my children but it just doesn't work! She disobeys, argues, won't be told. I do all the positive stuff, of course, but she bristles in my company. DD says I'm not the mum, I should let her get away with a lot and just not say anything but it's so difficult. It's now reached the point where DD hasn't come anywhere near for a couple of days, taking her to a teacher's house before breakfast club and asking an acquaintance to pick her up (there isn't anyone else long term). I can't stop crying because I think this is driving a wedge between me and DD, who is so stressed and making it worse for our relationship with GD. I'm at a loss to know what to do. Any experiences or advice please?

Teresaship Sat 22-Oct-16 14:55:58

Does your gd consistently behave badly in school holidays with her mum? If so then this is a parenting problem. If not then your gd is probably tired and knows she can kick off and get away with it because you're not mum. My gs is 4 and I adore him but I know my son and dil would never allow him to be rude to me and dh. My sil was arguing with my 9 yr old nephew and complaining about his behaviour. I pointed out it takes two to argue, just ignore him. Perhaps your gd needs to learn you will not react. I am sure things will improve as she gets older.

FarNorth Sat 22-Oct-16 17:34:41

I don't think good behaviour in the holidays necessarily means it is not a parenting problem.
I feel that the little girl is distressed to be shunted around so much and to see so little of her Mum.
She says she hates staying overnight at yours and wants to be in her own bed. She probably also wants to be in her own home, with her own mother, much more than happens at present.
The bad behaviour is not directed at you, it is an expression of her unhappiness, which she has no other way to deal with.

If the situation continues as it is, your DGD will continue to be unhappy and to misbehave.

mygrannycanfly Sat 22-Oct-16 20:12:08

I feel for you all but most of my sympathy is for your DGD. I've had a similar experience with my DD and father of my adored GD. I've been picking up some of the slack and I'm delighted to offer my DD more support than I had, and I'm so proud that my DD has been able to grab opportunities with my support - my motherhood years were very frustrating because I couldn't dump my domestic admin and it held me back so much.

However I recognise that a supportive GM is a poor Mum substitute. You need to do some tough yet sympathetic talking to your DD. You are doing your best, she needs to think about the plan for the rest of the school year.

Ideally she needs an au pair. There are some really lovely Italian graduates with teacher training who make super "wives" for nine months. Your DD's needs a few nights with a decent meal but no Mum and Dad conversation. You need a few days off a week.

Your DD needs to get more organised. She needs to leave work at a sensible time once a week and work on admin at home without the distraction of having her parents underfoot - she'll get a lot more done that way. She should aim to get home early twice in a week at least once every half term. Your GD needs to know that once a week Mummy will be home for supper with her.

And perhaps you could have your GD for part of the day on a Saturday or Sunday so that your DD can catch up with admin.

You could at least suggest it...

Lillie Sat 22-Oct-16 21:22:12

I'm not sure it has much to do with being better organised and it isn't really possible to do a lot of school admin at home. The job itself is demanding and stressful, which is why it's so difficult to recruit Headteachers - no one wants to do it.
I know in my own case I had awful divided loyalties between school and family.