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help! Advice about difficult grandma

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Pancakehouse Wed 16-Jan-19 19:14:22

Hi there. I wanted to ask for some advice regarding my MIL and I wanted to get the perspective of a grandparent rather than a parent so thought it best to post on here.

It’s quite a complicated story but I’ll try and tell it as simple as possible. My husband and I have 2 children who are both now in full time school. My mum and my mil both live nearby and have helped out with childcare since they were little. I returned to work part time and our mums have helped to look after the children for us which we have been grateful for. I used to think my mil was lovely, I thought we got along but over the years she has become more and more difficult and I have gradually felt more and more uncomfortable when I’m around her.

When the kids were younger things seemed fine but as they’ve got older my mil has gradually got more jealous and possessive over the children. I’m obviously closer to my mum who pops over to see us quite a bit. My mil is incredibly jealous of this which we are aware of so we try and arrange things with her but lately she makes excuses or seems in a mood if she does do anything with us as a family.

My mil never pops over to our house even though she would be welcome to. She also never invites us to hers she just seems to want the kids on their own at her house (but then moans to others she just feels like a babysitter!). It seems no matter what we do we can’t please her.

Anyway we went on holiday with my family to celebrate my mums special birthday recently. My mil hates us going anywhere in general and we dread telling her about anything going on in our lives cos she always seems resentful or acts indifferent (including us getting engaged, buying a new house etc). In the run up to the holiday she was moody and short with us. She ignored texts/calls from my husband on the holiday and then when we got back she had a furious meltdown at my husband saying how we always leave her out, I’ve always hated her, she might as well be dead etc. She was incredibly angry but did not admit it was about the holiday and kept saying it was different reasons. My husband was incredibly upset after this and worried about her mental state. We did not feel happy about her looking after the kids when she was feeling like this so we had to tell her we didn’t want her to look after them unless she dealt with her negative thoughts/feelings.

This did not go down well and my husband spent a lot of time and energy trying to convince her she would benefit from some professional help. (This was not the first time she has had this kind of meltdown). She took this as a huge insult and turned it all round blaming us for everything, lying about what she’d said and done, trying to turn my husband against me, then threatening to take us to court so she could have the kids at her house. She was insisting that she would tell the children everything when she sees them despite the fact it would upset them to know we have all fallen out.

We told her she can still see the kids but we just didn’t feel happy her babysitting. We wanted her to see them at our house. She was furious at this (I think cos she is not in control). She has also lied and told everyone who’ll listen we have stopped her from seeing them (because according to her I’ve always hated her and am jealous of her relationship with the children). She said she has told everyone she knows what a b*****d my husband is and screamed in his face that he is dead to her. She’s said some truly unforgivable things to my husband and then denied saying them to his face when he brought them up, not only this but made out he was sick for saying such a thing! She also tried to convince him that he’s going mad and he needs help it’s been really awful.

There are other reasons too such as the way she tries to get the children to feel guilty when they don’t see her and how she plays the victim. She’s also puts my mum down to the kids even though she has never done anything wrong. I think it’s all based on insecurity and jealousy knowing her as I do now.

She did not come and see the children for weeks when this first happened but we finally arranged for her to come to the house to see the kids and she turned up the other day with a random friend we have never met (without asking if this was ok). We think this is because she hates us calling the shots so she wants to show us she is still in control.

I’m just wondering what other people think about what they would do in this situation? My gut is telling me I don’t want her in our lives, my husband doesnt either. But I feel the kids may want a relationship with her as she is their grandma so I don’t want to stop them seeing each other. It’s awkward though to have her over after all that’s been said. We also don’t trust her one bit. I also don’t trust her with the kids so refuse to send them to her house alone. Any advice or comments would be really helpful. Many thanks.

Namsnanny Sat 19-Jan-19 15:56:34

Bradfordlass....in your opinion, and given your experience perhaps understandable.

In my opinion there are a multitude of ways to challenge this behaviour to get control of it and understand it.
For the sake of the family in question a calm investigation (without jumping to conclusions) is all I suggest.

thanks

Coolgran65 Sat 19-Jan-19 17:07:27

Just a random thought here..... has there been a change of medication at any time, a bad reaction to it or possibly a drug interraction.

Could her GP arrange to call her in for a 'yearly checkup' and possible have a chat with her (following a concerned call from yourself).

Pancakehouse Mon 21-Jan-19 12:26:23

Thanks for your suggestion. I too did consider contacting her gp when this latest meltdown originally occurred as I thought it out of character. However her own sister was not that surprised by her actions as she’s has multiple fallouts with her over the years. Her ex husband also told us about how she behaved when they split up years ago and there are striking similarities. Therefore I’m not sure if it is due to a new mental health issue but rather something that has always been there.
I couldn’t figure out why now with us, but we think that it may be due to the fact that we have never crossed her before and usually go along with what she wants to make her happy. This time (for the sake of our children) we have stood up to her and tried to get her to acknowledge that her jealousy and resentment have led to this situation. But she insists on placing all the blame on us to anyone who will listen and makes out she is the victim and all she has ever done is help us etc.
She has put posts on social media about how we have abandoned/betrayed her etc. It seems she would rather have the attention from people she barely knows rather than build bridges with us.
Her sister, other son etc have tried to talk her into seeing someone professionally but she is adamant that there is nothing wrong with her and that we have caused this so I don’t think contacting her gp will be of help. I think you need to be able to take responsibility for your own actions before there is any chance of someone changing their behaviour but that’s just my opinion.
Thanks everyone for taking the time to comment much appreciated

Foxyloxy Tue 22-Jan-19 18:33:47

Every Doctors surgery has a doctor who will specialise in physiological problems. Speak to her surgery and ask if there is any reason this sort of behaviour should cause concern. You are right in going with your gut feeling, that she is just missing out on control. But it might be a good idea to have some advice on wether this personality change is not a medical issue, before making any other decisions. After making sure she is healthy, you could look at the mediation service, sorting these issues out now will protect all of you from further grief in the future.

Twin2 Wed 23-Jan-19 10:31:33

As the Mil (I have 2 sons) I have had to accept I will always be told things second ie Wedding, pregnancies etc.

I have always been concerned at being a mother in law as the girls at work always appear to be moaning about theirs and talked to my Dil at the start that if I offended them I needed to know. So far so good

Both Grandmas help with childcare when mum works part time (eldest sons wife).

I used to say my own in-laws never popped in but now I’m a Mil it can feel if you are intruding even if your not.

My own Grandma was a controlling difficult woman and caused issues but my parents always kept the door open. You don’t say how old she is but she may be feeling vulnerable.

Having said all this I think you have every right and should do what you think is right for your family and her behaviour is not acceptable. Has she got friends - could your son or her other son find out if they have seen a change in her.

You also dont say how old your children are but it was explained from about 10. my gran sometimes didn’t like things we did and my gran got things wrong., but as my parents they did the right things for our family. I still had a good relationship with my gran

All I would say is keep the door open invite her occasionally and perhaps her other son at the same time, send her an odd txt or pictures of her grandchildren or your children send a txt or card. Offer to take her out - she will have the decision to accept or not. You will then know you haven’t ever shut her out and if it turns out to be a medical issue you will know the door was open.

If my son had supported his wife and tried to talk to me I would be proud of him. As parents, we can’t always get things right but Ultimately we bring our children up to help them fly and be their own people.