Hating the inappropriate name

It’s actually now thought of as meaning ‘a strong woman’

I wouldn’t worry so much it’s not an unattractive name and has an easy derivative as long as they are happy with it knowing it’s background Go with it the baby will make the name hers not as bad as I was expecting

Oh if its the Tom Jones name, its not uncommon at the moment and is perfectly acceptable. I know a baby D and a preschooler D its fine. Its popular right now

I didn't think it was the D name but another one entirely ( and not Mary either).

I don’t read the Bible so Googled ‘biblical name prostitute’. 4 names came up. None of them would have any particular meaning to me and I expect it’s the same for the parents-to-be and others.

I'm thinking of another name, which is lovely.

OK, I have known a similar situation , and this is my suggestion, as you are mother / granny.
firstly check it's not because of a much loved aunt of baby's father!

Quietly say something like:
I think this is a lovely name, but I just want to check that you have listened to the words of the song and know the Biblical story it's based on.

The 'pop culture'reference is quite an enduring one, especially as it's sung as a football song (can't remember which team) and they have been asked to stop using it because of its violent lyrics. You might even be able to bring that up, saying 'well, I hadn't quite realised, but this team have been asked to stop singing it.....'

By saying you personally like the name, you have pre-empted the idea that you are interfering.

It is astonishing to me how so many people just don't listen to song lyrics: the situation I was on the fringe of, I said to a friend of the parents 'have they listened to the song?' He said ' they say they have, but they only really know the hook - I'm going to make sure they listen to it all'. They did, and changed their minds. That was another pop song, but one that has endured a long time.

They can always use it as a middle name, so the little girl can use it when she's older.

I am also assuming that dad is conversant with British popular culture. For instance, for a long time, very few girls in Britain were called Lolita or its variants, but that didn't extend to Spanish / Latin culture.

Gosh this is like a guessing game now - Can we ask for 50/50 otherwise I might have to phone a friend!

If it bothers you & you think the girl may get teased about it in the future I’d mention it casually to the parents as in ‘did you know ..’. Once you’ve flagged it up to them, it’s over to them if they choose to use it. I’m sure the gorgeous girl will melt your heart and she will grow into her name!

It’s actually a lovely name, and only older people perhaps wouldn’t like it.Young people and children won’t think anything wrong about it.
Common names now are:Alfie, Elsie, Ruby, Fred, George, Harry, Lily.I don’t like any of them, but children think they are just fine.

I'm reassured that some of you know people with the name, and with no problems. I'd honestly not come across it anywhere in real life!

If it's actually becoming popular right now, all the better. I'm glad I posted this - you're making me see it a bit differently.

...and yes, re: the age thing - I know my Mum and my much loved 90 year old aunt are going to be horrified by the name! And they've both reached the stage where they don't filter!
I really hope they don't say anything to upset my daughter, when they meet the baby.

I think Tom Jones sang about a D and J so not sure which one we are talking about now

I know one J (bit older). Its not popular, but IMO has sort of been reclaimed in a feminist way, as in women that were called witches in the past were actually wise women/healers/midwives/activists.

I dont think it'll ever be as popular as D but it is not "bad" in fact there are songs reclaiming it as meaning strong wise woman who the patriarchy tried to put down so..

Its a heroine in folk songs.

Anyone using J as an insult these days would be seen as very old fashioned

It's the D one!

Well then. Its very "on trend" / "now"

I dont think people will be about it, especially not from the childs generation.

P.s. I just asked my girls if they know who Tom Jones is, they don't.

So no-one is actually saying the name? :-)

J was a Phoenician princess in the 9th century who married Ahab, the prince of Israel. Eventually, they ruled as king and queen. J continued worship the nature god Baal. The Yahweh prophet Elijah despised such actions and they were the ones who wrote the 'fake news' in the Bible, about a woman who was probably a good wife and queen.
There are several possible diminutives if you want to use them.
(Elijah was the guy who called a troop of bears to eat up some boys who had been mocking him)

I used to teach Chinese girls.When they arrived aged 11 they came with an English name chosen by themselves or a relative.We had a Gladys and an Ivy and even a Barbie but the most difficult was Windy.We explained that this might not be appropriate and perhaps she might like Wendy but ,no, her aunt had chosen it and so Windy she remained.It was surprising how quickly we all got used to it.

I wonder if the name is the same as my next door neighbours have called their last baby,also a Tom Jones connection, from what i gather it is becoming very popular,and it was a very popular song in the 60s
I don't know if this name has sexual connotations though,i have never thought about it,
Must listen to the song

The D song is also the Stoke City football ⚽️ song .

If it’s what I assume it is, I think it’s quite sweet. But I would still point it out tactfully in case your daughter is unaware.

Three children and six grandchildren, I’ve heard a lot worse over the years.

I had to google the name and i didn't even know she was a prostitute,i only knew it as as song, never even heard the name before TJ song
I wouldn't worry ,i bet the baby's parents don't know the history of it either
One of my great grandchildren is called Josie, and i hate it,also reminds me of used to be friend
I haven't been able to say it yet,but she's only a baby yet
Maybe call the baby by the first letter of her name and add ee,as a pet name,if it's the one i'm thinking it is

I think the song and potential teasing is more of a problem than the biblical reference.

The bible story was written from a Jewish point of view. To their enemies she was a mighty heroine!

And if you listen to the words of the song she did nothing more than prefer another man to the abusive stalker who killed her......

If it's the name I am thinking of I really like it

Oh unless it’s the J song.......

Oh the D name oh that’s fine I very much doubt if that would be connected with prostitution with today’s generation
When I used to hear the song I never really thought of it as connected to prostitution I really wouldn’t worry about that one too much
I thought it was going to be worse