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Kissing grandchildren?

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Philippa60 Fri 12-Aug-22 07:50:49

I am seeking other opinions on this - we are currently in the UK visiting our son and DiL and their nearly 5 month old baby, their first child.
We also have 4 grandkids from our daughter who lives very close to us.
The couple here are VERY anxious and super protective of the baby, and have told us that we are not allowed to kiss her. I am not talking about big sloppy kisses! Not even a peck on her arm....
We are 4 times vaccinated, and also just recovered from Covid so that isn't the issue.
They say "only Mum and Dad (them) may kiss the baby". They also don't allow anyone except the grandparents to touch or hold the baby.
I know it's "their baby, their rules" but at nearly 5 months old I am wondering if this sounds "normal".
Thanks
Philippa60

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Aug-22 10:46:54

We are a tactile family, lots of hugs and kisses whatever age.

I would not kiss a baby or GC of any age on the lips. Nothing wrong with kissing their heads, cheeks or that beautiful sweet spot of a newborn’s neck ❤️?

If one of our DiLs had requested no kissing we would have abided by her rules.

maddyone Sun 14-Aug-22 11:16:48

I’m a bit OCD about cleanliness. I absolutely would insist on a child washing their hands after using the bathroom, and before eating. We also routinely wash our hands when returning home from anywhere else, and we like visitors to do likewise, but don’t insist.

Madgran77 Sun 14-Aug-22 11:46:32

DillytheGardener

Madgran77 my thoughts too. There are generational differences but I think there are also many things that are universal to all mums, such as the panic of being given your first born and being overwhelmed with their vulnerability and reliance on you to make sure you make the right decisions and keep them safe.

Exactly. I have no idea why "huge generational differences" needed commenting on really. There are generational differences in lots of yhings but also many "huge" similarities!

Norah Sun 14-Aug-22 12:27:41

There are generational differences to every facet of life. I don't see a difference, in the OP, to how I raised my children (eldest 60). All in what makes the mum and dad comfortable.

Philippa60 Sun 14-Aug-22 16:22:00

Everyone, just to re-iterate, I was not talking about kisses on the face! Maybe a peck on her gorgeous head of one one of her feet.... literally nothing that was going to be a big deal!
Anyway we've not kissed her at all, but I have had delightful playtime with her, gooing at her and getting lovely smiles in return so all is goo.

VioletSky Sun 14-Aug-22 16:26:19

Phillipa babies put fret in their mouths, they touch their heads and pit fingers in mouths...

This is why you also wash your hands before holding a baby and don't let them put their hands in your mouth.

You can transfer 2 million germs kissing a little foot

Fleurpepper Sun 14-Aug-22 16:39:05

Oh FGS!

Good post GrannyGravy.

Pudding123 Sun 14-Aug-22 16:53:43

My daughter gave birth 14 weeks ago and had a very traumatic birth both her and our beautiful first and only grandchild had to stay in hospital for 5 days and during this time the well meaning but persistent nursing staff have lots of advise on not kissing babies due to the herpes virus and sudden infant death syndrome consequently my daughter who is 37 and a professional has been terrified of something untoward happening to her precious daughter.
At first I thought she was OTT but I now understand this and it is her baby and her rules times have changed significantly since I and lots of you lovely grandparents gave birth.

GrannyGravy13 Sun 14-Aug-22 17:09:12

VioletSky

Phillipa babies put fret in their mouths, they touch their heads and pit fingers in mouths...

This is why you also wash your hands before holding a baby and don't let them put their hands in your mouth.

You can transfer 2 million germs kissing a little foot

Rather over the top

How many germs are on sofas, cushion etc in/on play equipment at baby sensory classes etc?

Philippa60 Sun 14-Aug-22 17:10:24

I'm with you, Fleurpepper. And I wonder what happens with baby number 2? How do these super-anxious parents cope with a toddler or young child in the house alongside the newborn? How do you avoid the baby getting all the germs from the older child(ren)?
Or is this super anxiety only a first time thing?
I really find it OTT, but of course don't say a word and go along with it with a smile!

Smileless2012 Sun 14-Aug-22 17:12:26

It does make you wonder how we managed to survive doesn't it and raise our own children to adulthoodhmm.

VioletSky Sun 14-Aug-22 17:21:55

OK let's try this a different way

New parents are now given many guidelines on how to prevent risk of illness or death to babies and children.

New parents holding the most precious bundle they have ever seen will generally adhere to these guidelines.

Do you respect your adult child enough to also follow those guidelines ?

Or do you feel that you know best and can trample over your own child's wishes because you did x and it turned out fine?

Smileless2012 Sun 14-Aug-22 17:25:26

No one's suggesting that anyone trample over their AC's wishes. The OP has said on several occasions that she will adhere to the parents wishes about not kissing her GC.

I haven't seen anyone suggest that she go against the parents wishes. Some are simply saying that they find the parents decision OTT, that's all.

Farmor15 Sun 14-Aug-22 17:28:48

There's definitely a first time parent phenomenon. Not all 1st timers suffer from it, but some! My dil confessed to me when 2nd child reached about 3, that she was no longer afraid that children would die! She wasn't joking, and was a particularly anxious mother.

Norah Sun 14-Aug-22 17:36:33

Nobody said to trample the parents choices. Nobody.

Some have allowed they did differently. I'm 77, we did as this couple, can't be too careful.

GP don't "bond" with GC, what's that about? Parents bond. I'd add that I doubt GC know anyone excepting parents until nearing a year and that's as it should be.

VioletSky Sun 14-Aug-22 17:41:03

Then it doesn't need to be said that new mothers are anxious or I did x and it was fine and all my children survived...

That is just invalidating young mothers for simply trying to do what is best for their children on the advice of people who correlated data and looked for ways to avoid illness and death...

We are supposed to support our children so I will just do as asked and honestly won't think anything of it because my parenting journey has been a very long one and I have watched literally everything change between 1st and last.

Doesn't mean I should feel guilty that I did x and x is now not advised.

Certainly doesn't seem worth complaining that I can't kiss a baby when I can just adjust expectations. I don't want to put that baby at risk of a disease like herpies that I might unknowingly carry either.

Maybe when we are told new guidelines it is best to research them so we can understand why they are in place and just how much following them is actually a demonstration of love.

Fleurpepper Sun 14-Aug-22 17:46:43

or 3, or 4, or nursery, or kindergarten, and school? No cats, no dogs ...

welbeck Sun 14-Aug-22 17:47:16

the parents are following medical advice, so those who want to belittle them, maybe go tell the HCPs that they are OTT.

PoppyBlue Sun 14-Aug-22 17:50:27

The amount of parents, mine included, thought they knew better because they had a child 30+ years ago is mental.

When I had my first 13 years ago, my mom knew better and got me in trouble with the health visitor when it came to making bottles up..the look she gave me when I said 'well my mom told me to do it this way' STILL makes me cringe to this day. I felt I was about 5! blush

PoppyBlue Sun 14-Aug-22 17:54:24

*How do these super-anxious parents cope with a toddler or young child in the house alongside the newborn? How do you avoid the baby getting all the germs from the older child(ren)?
Or is this super anxiety only a first time thing?*

Oh the anxiety is still there, but because you've parented for 2/3 years you explain to a toddler not to kiss the baby because of germs, they usually listen and understand more than grown adults.

VioletSky Sun 14-Aug-22 17:55:44

Lol!

welbeck Sun 14-Aug-22 18:05:15

maybe because they are not prejudiced, the toddlers are willing to accept the reasoning and follow instructions.

Hithere Sun 14-Aug-22 18:05:17

Yup poppyblue

Hithere Sun 14-Aug-22 18:06:29

Toddlers, despite terrible 2s and 3a are easier to deal with than some adults, sadly

PoppyBlue Sun 14-Aug-22 18:28:45

SO much easier. My eldest was in nursery when her sister was born and that's all we had to say and she understood because no, she doesn't want to make her sister poorly.

When our son came along they were both old enough to understand about immune systems and the fact that their brother didn't have one. They would come home from school, change their clothes, have a wash and then interact with their brother.