Why haven't you been drawing a salary if you have been working full time?
This isn't just "helping" abd I don't quite get it.
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Husband doesn't want me to look after grandchild once a week
(329 Posts)My husband and I both have children from previous relationships. He has 3 grandchildren which we see occasionally and my daughter had just had her first child, my first grandchild.
I retired early from my job 2 years ago and we have been working together for 2 years full time renovating properties.
I want to look after my grandchild once a week but he says this will affect our work and is not happy for me to do it despite me saying i will work an extra day at the weekend.
If I spend more than a few hours a week with my grandchild he says my life revolves around her but I just want to be close to her and want to help my daughter get back to work without it costing a fortune in childcare.
I don't want to have to choose between them but I'm feeling like it may come to that.
And as for the 'think like a woman, think like a man' - I'm almost speechless. It's 2023. If I said what I actually thought about that, I'd probably get banned from here, so...
Has she entered into an actual contract with the 'business'? As she has pointed out, he was quite happily running the business before she started to help out. She has offered to make up any time lost, so I think she is being more than reasonable and he is the one behaving like a spoiled child. As I said, my husband runs his own business and I do help out too, so I understand what is involved in such an enterprise - but as for 'obligations', sorry but no. If my husband acted in the way that the OP's has, he'd be told he could stick his 'obligations' where the sun doesn't shine! Marriage is a partnership, yes - not a dictatorship.
He hasn’t been abusive. She’s expressed what she wants a day looking after her grandchild. He’s expressed what he wants. For her to continue working in the business- from which, as GSM points out- they both benefit when the profit is made.
Two people, in a partnership, should both be free to express what they want. The OP can do what she wants. There’s been no question of stopping her. But what she wants, in addition, is for him to agree with her. Well he doesn’t.
Not agreeing with someone is not abuse. Vast overreaction.
But if the two adults had been able to sort it out, O/P wouldn't be posting here.
I'm going by the information clearly given that O/P's husband doesn't just want her to be there for the business week, he is not happy with her seeing the grandchild more than "A few hours".
I'm O/P has made it absolutely clear she will make the time up and I think we need to have a degree of trust in gransnet posts inasmuch as if she says she can make the time up then that is adequate for the business.
I don't know about all this stuff about the "thinking like a man" excluding the very natural desire to spend time with your grandchild when they are very little.
We have plenty of reports on gransnet of where grandad wants to see grandchild just as much! Where there's a will there's a way.
We agree biglouis. I also think like a man. Completion and sale/letting of the current project and whatever is in the pipeline needs to be prioritised. OP may not draw a salary but she may well get a lump sum when a project is sold, or share rental income. To talk of her being a slave and her husband, with whom she is in business, as abusive is sheer nonsense.
I agree with other comments on here. We don't know what the OP's role in this business is. Is it a paperwork role, i.e. dealing with admin, tax etc? If so then surely it only needs a bit of calm negotiation and a mutual agreement as to babysitting etc. Because the OP doesn't draw a salary it doesn't mean she is not benefiting from a nice standard of living that her husband and the business provides. I'm sure there is an element of male jealousy here, the grandchild has thrown a small hand grenade into the marriage but two adults should be able to sort this out.!!!
Silly of me not to spot that the OP is working for nothing!
I’m not sure what you are doing in the Company, but you should definitely renegotiate the whole aspect of your working relationship.
As he’s getting free labour, tell him you are taking a day off, don’t even ask.
If you are working full time in the business, then it’s the same as being employed by any business.
Would you go into your employer and tell them that you want a day off each week to do childcare? Or would you have to look after the GC on your own time?
Or would you step back and go Part time?
To me it’s the same as being employed, you have to renegotiate your ‘contract’.
Su51 doesn’t get any wage for this work BigLouis she joined her husband ‘to help out’ when she retired
I don’t think you would do 5 days a week work for nothing bar love, having read various posts from you
Take your day off Su51 from ‘helping’ your husband to ‘help: your daughter and enjoy your grandchild
Without more information, all we can do is especulate
One day a week is entirely reasonable .
Tell him it's my special day with my grandchild - don't spoil it .
We can have a special day a week doing something that we both like - afternoon tea , a long walk , a film ...whatever, but we aren't going to have a special day every week because you don't deserve it .
Stand your ground and don't be bullied by this selfish , spoilt , jealous man .
I don't know, we seem to have a jealous controlling man who wants free labour from his wife and actively tries to prevent things she wants to do for herself
That adds up to abuse
With my business hat on I would tend to agree with the posters who remind OP of business obligations she entered into. Swapping her time to a weekend day may not work so well. In renovations it is necessary to collaborate with other tradespeople. Trades do not generally work at weekends (except for extra pay) and essential supplies may not be so easy to get hold of. Also many local councils prohibit this kind of work on saturday pm and sunday.
OP does not make clear whether seeing her grandchild is for a few hours or an entire day. I believe she should prioritize the currrent project which she entered into with OH. Perhaps when that is completed she could look at the arrangement again. After all the child will still be here. However business opportunities can be fleeting and often its a question of being in the right place at the right time.
Men can often be very single minded and inflexible when it comes to working on and completing a project. Their brains are wired to concentrate more deeply on a single task whereas women think more flexibly and can keep more oplates spinning. I am told I have very male attitudes and do not allow myself to be diverted from business by anything which I consider an " optional extra".
was this sort of thing discussed before you married.
Wives are of course not slaves
So why has she been working w/o salary for this long?
One might have thought so.
If your DH loved you, he'd want you to have time with your grandchild.
We have moved past wives being slave labour as a society
employee obviously
I hope the OP gives him a bit of time to recruit an employer to cover for the work she’s been doing. I know she doesn’t take a salary but losing her suddenly for a day in the working week will have an impact on efficiency and completion dates snd, in the longer term on profits.
But he managed without her before and he can manage again.
It sounds like they’ve got different priorities now and are moving into more separate lives.
Su51nan
Thank you for all your comments.
Just to clarify and add some detail, my husband was already running his business before I retired. When I retired I offered to help out as I had no other commitments.
I have a pension and receive no salary from his company.
That information makes an enormous difference.
Su51nan Presumably your DD will be taking some maternity leave which should give you the opportunity to reduce your hours and for your DH to adjust to the difference that will make.
Perhaps you could see your grandchild for a short time at weekends in the meantime, to get to know him or her.
Presumably this business is not just in his name and any profit will be shared as you are working without pay?
Does your DH take a salary from the business?
I wonder what pressure the husband might be under to complete a renovation and sell the house? Money borrowed from the bank? Interest accruing by the day? A slow property market? Most posters seem to take what I would call a typical woman’s view - no regard to the business, just have a nice time.
I think it's very problematic if your husband doesn't want you to spend one day most weeks with your grandchild instead of HIM and HIM alone!
Deedaa
He sounds like my husband. He didn't stop me looking after our grandsons five days a week till they started school, but he wasn't thrilled about it. He involved himself as little as possible with them and couldn't really understand why I wanted to do it - and yes he was jealous. He'd been jealous of our own children too, but I always thought it was his loss that he didn't enjoy them more.
ONE day a week is hugely different though compared to FIVE.
I agree with Willow - but of course some alternative arrangement must be made in case you want to go away for a few days, or illness, etc.
What about obligations?
The time can only be made up at the expense of time with husband and whatever is normally done at the weekend.
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