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DIL posh family - advice needed

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Silverberry Thu 28-Dec-23 17:08:21

Just wanted some advice. I have one DS who is married with children. Whilst we are comfortable, my DIL comes from a much richer and more upper class family. My son is incredibly bright, going to Oxford and has a really well paid good career. He married a lovely girl who he met there who is always very polite and welcoming but there has always been an undercurrent of knowing that we are not the normal type of people she is used to. She isn’t snobby or rude and is welcoming but it’s just an unacknowledged obvious thing.

Her family are much richer then ours, her father is incredibly successful (they own 5 houses) and are obviously very generous with the grandchildren which we are not able to be. They are also very generous with ds/DIL which we can’t be. For example I found out her parents give her £5000 as a gift to buy something nice for Christmas. Again they are never anything but polite to us, but it’s clear that we aren’t their sort of people.

My grandchildren are just so different to us, they have been sent to private school and whilst they do seem to love us, are quite clearly much closer to her family. Over Christmas I used the words settee and lounge and was corrected by my GD, my DIL winced with embarrassment as she obviously wants me to feel welcome but obviously my GC are being taught not to use ‘lower-class’ words like us. Another example is stockings. We still do stockings for our children (2) which are cheap and cheerful, but I recently found out that when my DS has Christmas with his in laws they do him a stocking with really nice presents. Now I feel like it was rude for me not to do one for my DIL, but she wouldn’t want our cheap one anyway. When we’ve bought her presents in the past she’s always been very polite but they don’t get used. For example we bought her a footstool we thought she would like, but DS said we shouldn’t have as she is very into interiors and likes to pick everything herself. I’ve only seen it used once and obviously that was to be polite.

I probably sound jealous and of course it would be nice to have more money, but I think it boils down to knowing in my heart we will never measure up to her family in generosity and that they are already so much closer. It doesn’t help we are the ‘paternal grandparents’.

Am very proud of my DS for moving on up in the world and we have a great relationship, but am I just destined to be a poor relation and is there anything I can do.

FannyFanackerpan Mon 01-Jan-24 17:00:20

Are you OK DaisyAnnReturns?

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 17:13:27

It wouldn't be what someone said about themselves, but what they said about others that might lead someone to reach that conclusion..

I found the implication in that comment made about me offensive, Daisy Anne.
You were not on that thread, as far as I recall, therefore you cannot possibley know what was said.
Furthermore I suspect that you deliberately choose to misinterperet what some posters say.
When a poster makes personal attacks, you know they have lost the argument.

...and yes I have pigeon holed you too.

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 17:14:52

POSSIBLY not possibley.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 01-Jan-24 17:37:40

I wouldn’t doubt for one moment what you say Marydoll. Many of us have been subjected to personal attacks and we remember exactly what was said, and by whom - though to name them would break guidelines. You are a very intelligent and well-educated lady, able to analyse what was said to you rather than be misled by bias or misunderstanding.

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 18:31:48

Thank you. GSM.

However, why on earth do I have to defend my self against an anonymous poster, with whom I have little or no interaction?
It's all very strange.

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 01-Jan-24 18:33:56

You shouldn’t have to. I have no difficulty in believing your version of events.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 01-Jan-24 18:41:03

You were not on that thread, as far as I recall, therefore you cannot possibley know what was said.

Exactly the reason why having leant support to your view, I felt the need to be even handed and say we did not know what was written by either of you as, although you had referred to a post from another thread, you had not quoted it. It is not appropriate to blame another poster using "remembered" comments. You really should have either quoted the post or not referred to it at all. As I pointed out, that is why it has always been against the rules.

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 01-Jan-24 18:42:41

Above post in answer to Marydoll's 01-Jan-24 17:13:27 post

Germanshepherdsmum Mon 01-Jan-24 19:10:58

Are you making the rules now DAR? Either quote the post or not refer it? Which (non-DAR) rule does that infringe?

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 19:14:19

Dog with a bone, Daisy Anne.

I commented on something which upset me. End of!
Expecting me to quote from a post from many years ago is unreasonable. I cannot recall the words, only how upset I felt at the time. It stopped me posting on GN for a while. However, I have become more robust and am now aware of the less pleasant posters.

Even if I remembered the poster's name, it would be against the rules to identify them.

This is now verging on harrassment.
I note that attack and misinterprrtation is your modus operandi, rather than respond in a polite manner.

What puzzles me is why you insist on
dragging this out. Have I unwiitingly offended you in a previous life?
I do not recall previouslý interacting with you. Please enlighten me.

Cabbie21 Mon 01-Jan-24 19:25:10

I have just come back to this thread and cannot believe that I am seeing so much nonsense.
Happy New Year.

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 19:38:14

Cabbie21

I have just come back to this thread and cannot believe that I am seeing so much nonsense.
Happy New Year.

We've had visitors and just logged into GN again for a catch-up and can't believe it either, Cabbie21!

JaneJudge Mon 01-Jan-24 19:39:36

I know Cabbie
Happy New Year all ❤️

RosiesMaw Mon 01-Jan-24 19:40:04

Me neither!

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 19:41:53

Marydoll ignore DaisyAnneReturns

It's not just you, honestly, DAR always has to have a target and has upset many Gransnetters over many years.

DaisyAnneReturns you can report me if you like, I care not, but please give it a rest. Stop attacking other posters over nothing.

FannyFanackerpan Mon 01-Jan-24 19:43:52

Has Christmas sherry been taken I wonder?

JaneJudge Mon 01-Jan-24 20:09:09

As an aside, I thought a chip on your shoulder meant an actual chip made from potato = working class? 🤷‍♀️

Then thought maybe a middle class version might be a rosti on your shoulder

Upper class a fondant potato on your shoulder

I don’t know about jacket potatoes

But anyway, it is about wood and it is definitely a saying aimed at people who are deemed inferior

I could not think of a wood hierarchy

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 20:15:51

JaneJudge

As an aside, I thought a chip on your shoulder meant an actual chip made from potato = working class? 🤷‍♀️

Then thought maybe a middle class version might be a rosti on your shoulder

Upper class a fondant potato on your shoulder

I don’t know about jacket potatoes

But anyway, it is about wood and it is definitely a saying aimed at people who are deemed inferior

I could not think of a wood hierarchy

I could not think of a wood hierarchy

Of all the trees that are in the wood
The holly bears the crown

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 20:20:21

FannyFanackerpan

Has Christmas sherry been taken I wonder?

I don't like sherry and rarely drink. My body is a temple. wink

Jane Judge, I have gone off chips, but do like rösti. Does that mean I have moved up in the world.

JaneJudge Mon 01-Jan-24 20:21:56

I have no idea how it all works Marydoll. They are all made from potatoes 🫠

Joseann Mon 01-Jan-24 20:49:22

Don't forget gratin dauphinois, although weirdly enough they have nothing to do with with kings' eldest sons or even dolphins!

DaisyAnneReturns Mon 01-Jan-24 20:58:06

It's always been the case that you cannot make a thread about another thread Germanshepherdsmum. I would guess you are well aware of that. All it takes is one post referencing back to another post, and GNHQ would have jumped on this in the past. So no, not my rules.

I was being even-handed. I don't know about you, but one person's memory of what was said and how they reacted isn't the whole story to me. That doesn't mean what Marydoll said is wrong. It just means we are left in a position where we do not have all the information, so we can't decide either way.

I don't know how many times you expect me to repeat this. This is simply a repeat of what I have said before. However, repeated posts in the same vein will not change my mind on the two points. Firstly, bringing a previous argument onto another thread breaks GNHQ rules. Secondly, it does not put us in a position to say whether Marydoll's reaction was reasonable. This appears to be what she wants; some sort of validation. That it was Marydoll's reaction is all that we know. We don't have the original or the other person's view of the post. We do know that another member hasn't been able to defend themselves.

Norah Mon 01-Jan-24 21:05:45

Back to the OP.

I read 50% of us are working class. I can't work out why anyone cares about much of the nonsense OP listed, working class - happily!

Marydoll Mon 01-Jan-24 22:44:15

As my dear mother would say, Dear God in Govan! Where did I say I wanted validation? Now I am being told, what I am/was thinking.
You could make a fortune Daisy Anne from your super powers.

This thread is getting more and more ridiculous! 🤣

Callistemon21 Mon 01-Jan-24 22:50:17

I don't know how many times you expect me to repeat this

No, please don't .....