Artificial Intelligence replacing people

GrannyGravy13

It’s an additional learning tool.

Cannot (at the moment) replace the existing parent child bond.

This. I would rather a child received a correct answer than a parent’s guess.

Lots of chatting with your children/grandchildren when you’re with them is crucial, too.

David49

We are assuming AI responses are going to be benign, it’s when they are use to distort facts that will be the threat. AI and automation is already replacing service jobs leaving only the most menial work for humans

Do you mean you think they will become like the right-wing press, David?

I thoroughly recommend the three part special of The Rest is Politics on A1. Includes interviews with people at the cutting edge of research.
David I think manual labour at all levels is at far more at risk from robots. A friend of mine has just had a robotic biopsy.
If you take the example of lawyers, AI can research and find relevant cases, judgements, laws etc
Making complex judgements, presenting evidence, making a strong case based on individuals involved - AI, not so much.

Such a positive post Luckygirl3

It's offering to be the best tool so far for the curious mind. Like all tools you need to learn how to use it, and the safety measures required. And, like the advent of all modern tools, it doesn't mean the tools of the past are lost. Indeed they often held in deep respect, admiration, or honour, and we are often tinged with awe when we use them while acknowledging the simplicity and speed of the new.

That's how progress works .

SORES

REKA

I was a voracious reader. I would use encyclopaedias to find things out. I wouldn't have dreamt asking my parents because I assumed they'd not know!

REKA - as a child, and actually up to mid teens, still tackling school homework - if I asked my Dad anything, he would say, “you had better ask your mother” - should I have the temerity to ask my Mother, she would say, “how should I know, you had. better ask your Father!”

That is a plus point re AI. If, for instance, you have the combination where one is very intelligent/would answer questions but was often away. The other one was there but far from intelligent and got annoyed with questions being asked and would shut their child up quite quickly = a combination where AI would have helped a lot to deal with all the "shutting up" by the less bright parent. Ask me how I know.....

....and there will be a lot of children like that or worse (ie both parents can't or won't answer questions).

If parents can give all the answers, what’s the point of school?

Is reading a book that has a series of chapters by different researchers giving their interpretations of ‘facts’ any different from using Google? AI is just the next step.

Parents are not just for being the last word on learning. These days children often know more than adults about things such as setting up phones, and letting them teach us sometimes can be a bonding experience.

I think that asking AI to write an essay is cheating, but using it to make connections which you then put together to form an argument is no different from reading them in a book.

New technology is always scary to people. Change is hard for many.

Like all technology, it’s up to parents to parent their children and supervise activities. AI can be a wonderful tool if humanity is wise about it. I used ChatGPT help organize a step by step plan for a relative who is struggling with some money problems. It’s just a faster way to do what we humans can already do ourselves. Efficiency is not the enemy of humanity. Humanity is far more deadly to itself than the tech we create.

Mum and dad will always be mum and dad, and I don’t see how not asking mum and dad is any different now than when Google was introduced. Search engines, AI etc are really just comprehensive sources of organized information. We didn’t become obsolete with search tools and we won’t with AI.

DH has recently used AI tools to produce publicity for some social events. The posters and pamphlets were excellent and produced in seconds.
Referring back to the original post, I’d be worried if I was a Graphic Designer or in the Advertising industry.

There's videos up there on YouTube now saying "Actually AI is going to take EVERY job - come 10-20 years time". Really depressing thought to start the day - though I got the general gist of one saying "THEY (ie the powers-that-be) will simply have to accept paying us all a Universal income regardless". Oh the naivety that can sometimes come with being younger - or you could put it as the cynicism that comes from being older in my case. I've lived through the era where Dole money was (just about) enough to manage on (and I do mean "manage" and not "live") and then they started cutting and cutting and cutting some more (thank goodness that didn't start up until after I'd managed to get back into work full stop) and I'm blowed if I know literally how anyone is even supposed to pay the bills and eat on it - never mind "have a life" and "what about if they still need money for mortgage or rent?".

"They" will have to do so - but whether They will or no is quite another matter and I'm not feeling optimistic. I can see why some people are doing more of a this century "back to the land" sort of set-up on this - ie not trusting the powers-that-be to be concerned about them. It's like "C'mon - if the super-wealthy techno people were that concerned about us - do you honestly think they'd be out there flashing the cash to do things like spending literally millions of £s on a wedding for themselves personally or buying mansion size house or the like?". It feels like "wake up and smell the coffee".

But the trouble to that "back to the land" bit (and I do my bit to be encouraging towards people doing that) is "What happens when people get older and possibly iller?". There will be the odd one that keeps right at it into their 90's - wasn't John Seymour one of them (until the day he decided his body was signalling he was getting weaker and there he was gone)? But this is something I see noticeably often living where I do now - ie that people have had smallholdings or farms in this area and get to an age where their health starts playing up - and then they buy themselves a house in town and move in more conveniently - or try and carry on managing their smallholding despite arthritis or the like (yep I do know one in this position and I'm sure there are others).

Our friend Elon Musk as part of his Zillion dollar salary has promised to build 1 million humanoid robots by 2035, combine that with AI what are humans going to do with their lives. A robot to do our cleaning, cooking and educating our kids hasan appeal, where do we fit in.

Robotics and AI are in their infancy, even more worrying is that all the global money supply is being concentrated in a few tech companies.

Apart from human 'casualties', AI is ecologically very expensive.
I wonder if that will play a part in curtailing its dominance?

Maremia

Apart from human 'casualties', AI is ecologically very expensive.
I wonder if that will play a part in curtailing its dominance?

That is what worries me most about AI.

David49

Our friend Elon Musk as part of his Zillion dollar salary has promised to build 1 million humanoid robots by 2035, combine that with AI what are humans going to do with their lives. A robot to do our cleaning, cooking and educating our kids hasan appeal, where do we fit in.

Robotics and AI are in their infancy, even more worrying is that all the global money supply is being concentrated in a few tech companies.

...and don't forget what Bill Gates for instance thinks is a good use of his money and "power".....Many of us will never "forgive or forget" his abuse of that....

Caleo

Maremia

Apart from human 'casualties', AI is ecologically very expensive.
I wonder if that will play a part in curtailing its dominance?

That is what worries me most about AI.

I can only think of one good side to AI personally - ie it's one way of dealing with someone who makes out they know all sorts and they don't actually. You can check on what they've just told you as to whether it was their ego/personal wish for money speaking OR they really do know and can be trusted that what they say is actually so.

eg I put in a specification and costing request for some work that a landscaper needs to do on a bit of my garden that got stolen off me officially by neighbours - so I know exactly what work needs to be done and what "their" bill now is due to be for it (ie a retaining wall) and boomph....I know and no workman or current neighbour in that house can try and flannel me about it. I do have a very good idea now - as it told me exactly how the work should be done and what sort of charge there will be for it.

So it does have its uses - but indeed the consequences loom (very) large - water use and all those jobs lost/skills lost. That's before we get into "Just how conscious is AI? We've already seen a couple of unnerving incidents where it decided it wasnt going to be switched off and acted like a person - rather than OUR tool". The whole "We came in after a weekend away - and it had taught itself two languages".

I don't understand all the "ins and outs" of Bitcoin and how connected-up (or otherwise) it is with all this - and I don't like the look of that either and it just seems so incredible to me that a load of machines working away could turn out something that we are told is "money". I know I've thrown a bit of real money into the actual pot years back, knowing I'd just invested it, but I still couldnt quite believe they'd just change some figures on a screen and tell me "Oh look - there's your investment returned and the figures on screen have been adjusted to say you've got some more money". Felt most odd to take it out and then go and spend it....wierd...

CariadAgain

David49

Our friend Elon Musk as part of his Zillion dollar salary has promised to build 1 million humanoid robots by 2035, combine that with AI what are humans going to do with their lives. A robot to do our cleaning, cooking and educating our kids hasan appeal, where do we fit in.

Robotics and AI are in their infancy, even more worrying is that all the global money supply is being concentrated in a few tech companies.

...and don't forget what Bill Gates for instance thinks is a good use of his money and "power".....Many of us will never "forgive or forget" his abuse of that....

So you think that Bill Gates alledged weaknesses out weigh the Polio Eradication canpaign he has been funding.

I would say we might need to wait to see what those 'weaknesses' are.

Just reading Richard Osman's We solve murders. It's being used to launder money and book hit men . 🤣