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Deep rift with my DD over grandchildren s behaviour

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Notjustaprettyface Sun 01-Feb-26 19:54:51

Last night , I babysat for myDD and so had to put the 3 kids to bed .
The younger one was no trouble , the older 2 just refused to sleep and the 5 year old refused to even get into bed
I was very tired , it was gone 10 pm by then and she was giving me such hell that I did say to her she was a horrible little girl.
She repeated that to her mum/ my daughter today and my daughter has told me off by text ; she feels let down she says .
We were due to go to the cinema together today followed by a meal and she just didn’t turn up , not even telling me .
So , there are several issues here : she doesn’t tolerate any criticism of her badly behaved children and then she ‚ ‚punishes me by pulling out of an arrangement with me .
It feels like non adult behaviour to me and I just feel I don’t deserve to be treated like this
And it has left me very upset , needless to say
Can anybody help please ? As I don’t know what to do or what to think
I would be most grateful
Thank u

Granmarderby10 Wed 04-Feb-26 11:35:05

Oh please. The five year old was just being naughty. Gran was just being tired. It is what all kids and grans do at some time or another.

My thoughts are (to mum of the kids) send us a message-if you become a grandparent in the future(maybe time travel will be a thing by then) to let us know how it’s all going!
Entitled or what.
Ps. I’d have texted Mum whilest the behaviour was happening. I have done this. And told the kids.
PPs as long as the kids stay in the bedroom( toilet and drinks accepted) just leave them to it they won’t suffer from lack of sleep.
It was mean to call off the cinema trip imo.

Allira Wed 04-Feb-26 11:13:12

It's seriously a case of gransnet hijacking.
Just remember anyone can sign up.

Yes.
Are you a new poster, Steppi?
Sorry you're not impressed with us.

Giulietta Wed 04-Feb-26 11:08:51

I once had a similar experience when babysitting. After that I always have the children stay over with me rather than babysitting in their own home. I find the children are much better behaved in my house and we all go upstairs to bed together at 9 pm. I hope this works for you.

Basgetti Wed 04-Feb-26 10:58:39

Steppi

It's seriously a case of gransnet hijacking.
Just remember anyone can sign up.
We have no way of knowing if there is anything genuine about other people at all.
So many people ready to throw their opinions at others they don't know.
Quite honestly I'm not that impressed with gransnet.
There may be some genuine people but I think there maybe some who want to pump themselves up with condemnation .
Maybe those people aren't even grandparents.

I’m a granny to a lovely 5 year old. On occasion, his behaviour has not been ideal. I have/would never tell him he is horrible. My mother said some awful things to me when I was a small child, struggling to understand life after an abusive father, and her words have never left me. Over 5 decades on, I remember them all. Insulting a tired child and resorting to the sherry is poor grandparenting.

Netherbyg84 Wed 04-Feb-26 10:40:51

I'm so sorry you had such an unkind response from people on this forum;
we can all snap under pressure and what you said to the 5 year old is not going to affect her as much as some imply, especially as the mother has no doubt given her endless reassurances that she is not a horrible child.

missdeke Wed 04-Feb-26 10:31:28

Calling a child a horrible little girl is not exactly an adult response. Telling her that her behaviour is unacceptable is far more productive. I understand the frustration and feelings of helplessness against such determined behaviour but a tit for tat childish response from an adult is not the answer.

I would have let her stay up and tell her that you would explain to mummy how naughty she had been and it would be up to mummy to deal with her.

Allira Wed 04-Feb-26 10:03:20

agnurse

I think there are multiple things we need to unpack here.

1. The child was absolutely demonstrating appalling behaviour.

2. It is human to reach a breaking point.

3. The verbal response was inappropriate. The child herself is not horrible. Her behaviour is poor. It is possible to correct behaviour without labelling a child.

4. I do agree that an apology is important here. It's also a teaching moment for the child. Modelling how to give a proper apology teaches her how to resolve conflicts.

5. I do think the daughter's behaviour of not turning up without providing notification is also problematic, but I can understand her perspective.

Bottom line: all three people in this situation were out of line, and apologies are required.

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Especially this:
3. The verbal response was inappropriate. The child herself is not horrible. Her behaviour is poor. It is possible to correct behaviour without labelling a child.

Melandme Wed 04-Feb-26 09:48:24

This sounds as if it's got out of proportion. Why is all the emphasis on the poor badly behaved child, and not on the grandmother trying to do her best? We're all human and it seems nowadays children have to be treated with kid gloves, whereas grandmothers can take all the abuse they're given. If you push someone hard enough they will react. Forgive yourself and maybe try and reason with your daughter.

SheepyIzzy Wed 04-Feb-26 08:55:50

I understand why you said it, children of all ages can be right little sods and parents DON'T want to say no to them.

My niece is raising her sprog using "gentle parenting". You can tell who's boss in their house and it's not the adults. Her child minder doesn't use that method and the kid does as she's told. She's 3!

Folk will probably rant at me now, I don't care!

I also agree with regards to obedience! Good enough for dogs!

Jaycee19 Wed 04-Feb-26 03:06:34

A rhyme said by generations in my family. There was a little girl who had a little curl right in the middle of her forehead when she was good she was very very good but when she was bad she was horrid.

agnurse Wed 04-Feb-26 00:55:47

I think there are multiple things we need to unpack here.

1. The child was absolutely demonstrating appalling behaviour.

2. It is human to reach a breaking point.

3. The verbal response was inappropriate. The child herself is not horrible. Her behaviour is poor. It is possible to correct behaviour without labelling a child.

4. I do agree that an apology is important here. It's also a teaching moment for the child. Modelling how to give a proper apology teaches her how to resolve conflicts.

5. I do think the daughter's behaviour of not turning up without providing notification is also problematic, but I can understand her perspective.

Bottom line: all three people in this situation were out of line, and apologies are required.

FranP Tue 03-Feb-26 22:22:46

Yes you made a mistake, but when you meet with open defiance from a 5 year old, your patience can snap. But perhaps she IS a horrible child, but that is a criticism of your DD, so she is resentful and defensive. But HER behaviour standing you up, is bad behaviour too. Possibly she knows that her parenting needs work, and is as angry that it hit home.

But with small children you have to tell them that their behaviour is horrible and you expect better of her, not that SHE is - even at 5. But did your DD not play up when she was overtired, or perhaps just missing mummy? - did DD tell her that it was only for the evening and that she would be there the following morning?

Sago Tue 03-Feb-26 21:36:45

Peaseblossom

Yameus You need therapy for your hateful response! Get a life and go and bully someone else.

Oh this thread is the gift that keeps on giving!

Peasblossom you responded to me with……… Sago Really? Get some counselling? Why do some people think that's the answer to everything? Just a waste of money for snowflakes

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Allira Tue 03-Feb-26 21:31:17

undines

Goodness Sago - what snowflake planet are you on?! Sorry, I don't mean to be rude - but if the word 'brat' makes you shudder how on earth do you manage not to have a permanent attack of the vapours, in these days of paedophiles, grooming gangs and child murderers - and that's what we actually know about!

undines -
Then you say:

if you are expecting empathy and support there are plenty on Gransnet who would rather judge and reprimand, so be prepared

Oh, how ironic 😂😂😂

Sago Tue 03-Feb-26 21:28:06

undines

Goodness Sago - what snowflake planet are you on?! Sorry, I don't mean to be rude - but if the word 'brat' makes you shudder how on earth do you manage not to have a permanent attack of the vapours, in these days of paedophiles, grooming gangs and child murderers - and that's what we actually know about!

Because IMHO for an adult to refer to a child as a brat is nasty.

How this is related to grooming gangs, paedophiles and child murderers is beyond me.

undines Tue 03-Feb-26 21:14:06

Goodness Sago - what snowflake planet are you on?! Sorry, I don't mean to be rude - but if the word 'brat' makes you shudder how on earth do you manage not to have a permanent attack of the vapours, in these days of paedophiles, grooming gangs and child murderers - and that's what we actually know about!

undines Tue 03-Feb-26 21:08:23

NJAPF if you are expecting empathy and support there are plenty on Gransnet who would rather judge and reprimand, so be prepared. As for Mumsnet, well...
I do have a lot of sympathy for you and do not agree with those who seem to think that losing your temper is not 'adult'. It does not do children any harm to see anger, but they also need to see it is contained, that the adults can handle it and not get out of control. And of course it's good for children to hear an apology, where one is due. I would say one is due here, NJAPF, because the thing to do is of course to call the behaviour horrible, not the child. To be called 'horrible' leaves no hope, to be told one's behaviour is 'horrible' means one can improve and learn. It sounds as if you acted under great stress and were very tired, so it's understandable, but in my view it was not advisable and needs an apology for the sake of your relationship with your grandchild, and the child's welfare. That memory could have a significant effect, but you can put good memories to balance it out. I am not a great fan of the ultra-gentle parenting that's promoted these days. I'm not sure what sort of adults will be raised - sometimes it works, no doubt with certain subtleties and circumstances, but the danger is it can create an entitled, selfish human who is simply not equipped for the demands of life. I also think that it is no wonder so many people are suffering from stress and exhaustion, when both parents are working full time and then have to be all sweetness and light for badly-behaved kids - or suffer guilt and criticism. By the way, I'm a counsellor with 37 years of experience, mother of four and grandmother to four, so I say none of this lightly.

Trixee Tue 03-Feb-26 20:49:04

Notjustaprettyface. Make a life for yourself, join the U3A, Oddfellows, ladies groups etc. there's a lot out there and no need to be lonely

WithNobsOnIt Tue 03-Feb-26 20:40:50

Yes, l agree..Although they are only children they still need to taught what is acceptable behaviour when they stay in your home.

Your daughter l think could be using you to suit herself.

I would suspend contact for a while and rethink the situation.

Plevey08 Tue 03-Feb-26 20:27:07

It is best to criticise the behaviour and not the child. We are in a unique position as grandparents....patience and kindness works better. Did you want to babysit? Or were you feeling unwell...try to work out what happened and why. I don't want to hurt your feelings but kids have an uncanny way of knowing if someone doesn't want to be around them. It can be sorted out but decide for yourself what you are to able to offer. Maybe you are asked to do too much. So only you can judge that. Offer what help you are able to give and, give your time and love to them when you can be with them. Maybe you could offer to have 1 grandchild at a time in your home and they can take take it in turns. It gives us a chance to really build up a special relationship with each of our grandchildren. That is truly beautiful.

valdavi Tue 03-Feb-26 20:18:19

Sago

Is it just me?………calling any child a brat makes me shudder.

Me too.Even if it's the 10 year old 'Dennis the menace' from the problem family down the road.

Even more so when it's your own grandchild.

Trixee Tue 03-Feb-26 20:04:02

Well said Steppi, exactly my sentiments. I have six Grandchildren and babysat a five year old ONCE, never again it was awful, that was the one and only time.

jeriatrux Tue 03-Feb-26 20:00:05

ALSO re babysitting. Dont bite off more than you can chew !

jeriatrux Tue 03-Feb-26 19:57:50

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Ludicrous ! Briefly keep mum. Dont let ptide cut you off. Let it die down. Send cards and presents as usual. Kids grow up !

knspol Tue 03-Feb-26 19:53:38

"I accept that but sheets defiant , rude and nasty"

This is your grandchild you're talking about and you call her nasty. I really think telling a child she's horrible is not an adult response. By all means reprimand her but what sort of lesson are you teaching her by name calling. Quite frankly I'm not surprised your daughter wasn't happy about this.
IMO you should apologise to your daughter, explain you were tired and the children wouldn't go to bed. If I was your daughter it would be a long time before I wanted you to baby sit again.