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"Old age starts when you reach 54"

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snailspeak Tue 17-Jan-12 17:45:27

This was the title of an article in the Daily Telegraph recently. I was horrified. Well past 54, I don't even feel elderly never mind being in my old age.

This seems to come from interviewing the "younger generation" whoever they are who also think that "youth" ends when people turn 32. The report claimed that age-related stereotypes are rooted in British society. First I'd heard of it and how come some terribly old people will be required to work until 70 very soon.

Anne58 Tue 17-Jan-12 17:48:13

Oh bloody great! I will be 54 in August.

bagitha Tue 17-Jan-12 17:53:27

Chronic diseases I've had all my life started to cause me problems when I was 48, by which I mean they began to interfere with how much I was able to do without being ill. It's hard to accept, but I've just had to. That said, I had a great aunt who was "known to be fragile" from her forties, but who lived well into her eighties quite happily.

gracesmum Tue 17-Jan-12 17:57:08

Ha phoenix it's all your fault! Aren't numbers silly? Nancy dell-olioliolioli whats it is 50 apparently and in jolly good nick unless all the Strictly shots were airbrushed. So how can somebody come up with a number like 54 or 64 or 74 I had coffee this morning with a friend who is the classiest most elegant and glamorous-looking lady in our village and she shocked me by saying she next birthday is the big 8-0. I wish I looked half as good at my age which is considerably less!
The obsession with YOOF also irritates me- Tony Blair in jeans, Brian Ferry and his 29-year old girlfriend, Madonna in anything - need I say more?

gracesmum Tue 17-Jan-12 17:58:46

That should have read "her" next birthday - apparently some people's typing skills decline dramatically after the age of 54 grin

bagitha Tue 17-Jan-12 17:58:51

gracesmum, smile

Annika Tue 17-Jan-12 18:04:21

No hope for me then !sad

Anne58 Tue 17-Jan-12 18:06:39

I remember a few years ago when Nancy was still with Sven, there was an article in the Daily Telegraph which stated "Ms Del Ollio, who has been 47 for some years......." I did chortle. Sometimes the DT is very dry and tongue in cheek!

(I've probaly spelled her name wrong, but you know who I mean!)

Gally Tue 17-Jan-12 18:07:21

Heavens - there's no hope for me then at 63! Yesterday at the hospital, a nurse was giving me directions and then asked ' you are ok on the stairs aren't you?' as if I was 90 and incapable. I could have forgiven her if she was 18 but she wasn't much younger than I. I always thought of myself as active and healthy and reasonably young looking, but now I am beginning to doubt my ability to even cross the road safely grinshock

Anne58 Tue 17-Jan-12 18:16:13

I think this illustrates the old thing of other peoples perceptions of you, and your own perception of yourself.

I still feel quite young in many ways (a recent conversation with my boss resulted in me saying that I realise I have to act more like a grown up confused but then I sometimes catch sigt of my reflection and for a moment think " Bloody hell, what's my mother doing here?!" and then realise it's me.

What I feel like when I'm "looking out of myself" bears no comparison to what others see when looking at me, unfortunately.

It always "interests" me when meeting with either clients or potential cleints that I have only had phone or email contact with. Sometimes you can see the surprise in their faces!

I will bedoing this again tomorrow as I'm going to present to a potential client in London. I haven't pre-warned him.......................

gracesmum Tue 17-Jan-12 18:36:32

Does anybody remember the poem by the lady in the care home that starts "Look at me, Nurse..."?? I remember it as being very moving and saying a lot about how others see us and how we are inside.

Butternut Tue 17-Jan-12 18:57:25

Bagitha smile

Your great aunt sounds remarkably similar to my mother-in-law who lived into her 90's, and my 'fragile' sister-in-law. Tough as old boots, both of them!

syberia Tue 17-Jan-12 19:48:59

I shall only be 54 for another 3 days!! Old age here I come............ grin

Annobel Tue 17-Jan-12 20:09:55

Watchit, syberia. You're talking to your elders here! Old age starts when you feel it does... confused

bagitha Tue 17-Jan-12 20:25:34

I don't feel old yet, but I do feel older. For a large chunk of my life, I felt the same age, physically if not mentally. Now, I definitely feel older physically. I guess things have started wearing out. I'm good for a bit though so I'm not sure old age has started yet. Youth has just waned a bit.

Quiltinggran Tue 17-Jan-12 21:43:21

Is this the poem you mean, gracesmum?

Mattie's Poem
What do you see, nursie, what do you see,
what are you thinking when you're looking at me?
A crabby old woman, not very wise,
uncertain of habit, with faraway eyes.

Who dribbles her food and makes no reply
when you say in a loud voice, "I do wish you'd try?"
Who seems not to notice the things that you do,
and forever is losing a stocking or shoe.

Who, resisting or not, lets you do as you will
with bathing and feeding, the long day to fill.
Is that what you're thinking? Is that what you see?
Then open your eyes, nurse; you're not looking at me.

I'll tell you who I am as I sit here so still,
as I use at your bidding, as I eat at your will.
I'm a small child of ten with a father and mother,
brothers and sisters, who love one another.

A young girl of sixteen, with wings on her feet,
dreaming that soon now a lover she'll meet.
A bride soon at twenty-my heart gives a leap,
remembering the vows that I promised to keep.

At twenty-five now, I have young of my own
who need me to guide and a secure happy home.
A woman of thirty, my young now grown fast,
bound to each other with ties that should last.

At forty my young sons have grown and are gone,
but my man's beside me to see I don't mourn.
At fifty once more babies play round my knee,
again we know children, my loved one and me.

Dark days are upon me, my husband is dead;
I look at the future, I shudder with dread.....
For my young are all rearing young of their own,
and I think of the years and the love that I've known.

I'm now an old woman and nature is cruel;
'tis jest to make old age look like a fool.
The body, it crumbles, grace and vigour depart,
there is now a stone where I once had a heart.

But inside this old carcass a young girl still dwells,
and now and again my battered heart swells.
I remember the joys, I remember the pain,
and I'm loving and living life over again.

I think of the years; all too few, gone too fast,
and accept the stark fact that nothing can last.
So open your eyes, nursie, open and see,
not a crabby old woman; look closer - see ME!!

em Tue 17-Jan-12 21:59:20

A good friend of mine has just turned 74. My GD (11) was discussing people with her friend and when talking of my friend, thought for a moment of how to describe her. The adjective she came up with was glamorous! Not a bad choice!!

jeni Tue 17-Jan-12 22:59:37

I hope tomorrow when i get my mac to. Be able to put some pictures upon my profile. One of them will be the 4generatipn pic of my family. The well dressed lady on my right is my very intelligent 90year old aunt!
She still does the telegraph crossword . She I'd definitely fitter and fitter than I am!!!

susiecb Wed 18-Jan-12 10:44:52

I'm about to be 59 and its doesnt feel good as numbers go and it doesnt feel like it belongs to me. I'm sitting here in my Monsoon jeans and Wallis top fully made up and perfumed for a day at home pottering about just like I would have done 20 or 30 years ago on a day off from work except that every day is a day off now. I'm not doing anything different so why I am bothered by it. I dont even know where this conversation is going.

flowerfriend Wed 18-Jan-12 10:54:08

I'm 64 and have been feeling fit and young but recently a middle-aged woman offered me her seat on the metro when I was on my way to the Eurostar station in Paris. I declined and smiled politely although I thought cheeky so-and-so.

Help.

Zephrine Wed 18-Jan-12 10:55:57

Forget the numbers susiecb. I found there was a period of adjustment when I stopped working (moved house gave up business and retired all at same time) but you are still "you" just with a whole new vista of opportunities. You have the freedom that most of us have yearned for at some time, hopefully you still have your health and strength and you can do WHATEVER TAKES YOUR FANCY!!!! Sit back have a think about what you'd like to try and have a go. The only thing that I have really had any trouble with is loss of status, our society has no respect for age and/or experience but I decided that was their problem, I'm O.K. smile

absentgrana Wed 18-Jan-12 11:05:50

I look forward to the day when the word senior regains its sense of higher status and stops meaning old and useless, as in senior citizen.
I look forward to the day when the younger generation recognises that grannies are the best resource a family ever has.
I look forward to the day when old woman is not used as an insult as in "He's a real old woman the way he fusses."

bagitha Wed 18-Jan-12 11:28:22

I have painful arthritis and would gladly accept a seat offered on public transport. Trouble is, I look fit and healthy so people don't. I certainly don't think it's cheeky to offer an older-than-you person your seat, whatever your age happens to be. There have been threads on here where people have moaned that not enough young people offer older people seats. Can't have it both ways! I don't have a problem accepting that I don't feel as able to do some things (including standing for long periods) that at one time were less of a bother.

However, I agree than using "old woman" and similar phrases as insults is not good.

Zephrine Wed 18-Jan-12 11:49:41

That "real old woman" thing really bugs me. angry

Greatnan Wed 18-Jan-12 13:41:02

You are a bunch of kids compared to me! I am 71 and apart from a little arthritis in the right knee, which I treat by taking very long walks, I have never been fitter.
The things I find a little depressing is that younger people think I have lost my sense of humour and would not appreciate a risque joke. How do they think we got to be grandmothers?