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Zigzags in front of eyes

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Ellie Anne Mon 08-May-17 18:32:31

Last night I started seeing zig zags in front of my eyes. I couldn't read properly. No headache or other symptoms. After 10/15 minutes it went away.
It may not be connected but a few weeks ago the pictures on the wall started moving about. This stopped after a few minutes.

Teetime Tue 09-May-17 09:11:39

Yes I used to get this a lot it started after a particularly bad bout of labyrinthitis and I read that it can be connected. Its seems to have lessened of in recent months. I've told my GP and consultant about it and neither are bothered.

shysal Tue 09-May-17 09:31:57

Ellie Anne, I have this, and have been assured that it is nothing to worry about. The medical term is Scintillating Scotoma. I find driving or walking into the sun can bring it on, also looking at the computer screen for any length of time. It starts in the centre of view and gradually widens in a circle towards the periphery then disappears, taking about 20 minutes. I have never had a headache afterwards. The episodes have increased recently to a few times a week, but I am trying to ignore them where possible. I hope this reassures you, it is alarming the first time it happens.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scintillating_scotoma

shysal Tue 09-May-17 09:36:42

Teetime, I am interested to read in your post that it can be connected to labyrinthitis, as I am a fellow sufferer.

Maggiemaybe Tue 09-May-17 23:57:22

Yes, I've had these too, just four or five times, and my trigger is bright light. My optician called them ocular migraine, though I much prefer shysal's Scintillating Scotoma, which sounds like a spectacularly louche cool jazz combo.

f77ms Wed 10-May-17 07:29:06

I have migraine and get flickering zig zags which is called an aura , I don`t get a headache after either. My migraine headaches start slowly , build up to intense with nausea and can last a couple of days. I think what you have had is a migraine aura but its worth seeing the GP if it happens again x

TwiceAsNice Wed 10-May-17 07:36:15

I had something similar and went to the optician he said it was tiny pieces of the eye fluid coming away. You do need to get it checked out as in some instances it is caused by retina damage which is more serious. I am a migraine sufferer anyway and as I have different symptoms with that went to the optician rather than the GP

harrigran Wed 10-May-17 07:47:27

I get these migraine auras, they are quite disturbing when they happen and the only thing I can do is sit quietly until it passes usually about half an hour. My last one was just the other week when three stressful things happened in the space of a couple of hours. Mine appear as moving rolls of barbed wire with a searchlight shining through.

rosesarered Wed 10-May-17 09:06:35

Perhaps you were in Colditz in another life Harrigran grin

Mine are zig zaggy brightness at the edge of my vision, which gradually fade outwards and go in about 20 mins or 30 mins.

I liked the sound of the louche jazz combo Maggie smile

shysal Wed 10-May-17 10:59:04

For anybody who watched Primeval on TV with their GCS, it is rather like the 'anomolies' on the programme, but without the dinosaurs!

gillybob Wed 10-May-17 11:05:07

Mine are quite similar to the ones you describe Harri and occur mainly when I am feeling extra stressed. They sometimes also come on as a result of looking (accidentally) at a bright light.

LadyGracie Wed 10-May-17 11:24:32

Last Friday I had a back spot in my vision in my left eye gradually overnight it developed into what I can only describe as a cobweb which I still have. I saw my GP on Monday morning, and the optician on Monday afternoon who examined my eyes after inserting dilation drops, the gel in the eye when you're older sometimes moves and bunches up causing the cobweb effect, these can just as easily be reabsorbed. They can in some circumstances pull on the back of the eye causing the retina to detach or start to detach. In my case there has been some pulling and there has been a small amount of bleeding, I have an emergency appointment at the hospital next Wednesday. I didn't know really anything about eyes until now. Sorry if I've waffled and bored anyone.

shysal Wed 10-May-17 11:36:48

The same thing happened to me about 15 years ago, LadyGracie. I was driving and saw what I rightly assumed was blood cascading down inside my eye. It was diagnosed as a pulling of the gel at the back of the eye. I still have a floater to this day, where it did not all reabsorb, and see flashing lights when I turn my eyes in the dark. I have fortunately had no further problems, except a minor version of the same thing in the other eye.
I hope you will get on OK at your appointment, eyes problems are worrying aren't they?

Liz46 Wed 10-May-17 11:42:45

I get these occasionally and they last for about 20 minutes. A couple of weeks ago, it happened three times within a few days. I was on doxycycline and think that caused the increase.

Lellyb Wed 10-May-17 20:27:20

I agreed with shysal, it definitely sounds like scintillating scotoma. I've had it myself a number of times and for me, it's like a clear plastic fan revolving in the centre of my vision. It goes away after about 10-15 mins, and doesn't leave a headache (although for some people, it does). My optician and GP both advised that although it can be distressing/disturbing, it's not indicative of any health problem.

nanav123 Thu 18-May-17 11:20:45

I have been getting the Zig zags for about 35 yrs I find that if I take 0ne paracetamol it goes almost at once I've found reading red writing on white paper can bring on an attack also bright lights good sun glasses help

valeriej43 Wed 31-May-17 11:37:10

My son gets this quite frequently,he was worried it was caused by a mini strke he had,
The Dr said it was occular migraine, no headache
He is very stressed at the moment ,so i think that can bring it on
Nothing to worry about apparently

Tegan2 Wed 31-May-17 12:02:48

You must have been so scared Ellie; I know I was the first time it happened to me [it was nightime and I ran outside hoping to get away from it, but it was still there]. The second time it happened I didn't panic as much, just waited for the 20 or so minutes that it took for it to go away. Touch wood, hasn't happened since. A friend of mine has something similar that is stress related.I agree that you need to see someone about it but I really wouldn't worry; but it is so frightening the first time it happens. I remember thinking that I'd never be able to read or drive a car ever again!

loopyloo Thu 08-Jun-17 10:52:15

Yes I have had these episodes. I find a drink of something sugary and resting helps them go away quickly. Definitely related to stress, had one attack the day the VAT inspector visited our shop. Also bright lights. My mother had them.

Nandalot Thu 08-Jun-17 11:56:56

This is probably migraine but best to get it checked out. My first episode of this was when I was 15 revising for 'O' levels. I had the zig zag lines followed by loss of vision on the right side. I screamed as I thought I was going blind! I get migraines with stress, usually after stress as a relief reaction and bright lights, ...flash of sun off car bonnets etc. Oh and red wine . I have two visual auras. With the zig zag lines it will be a headache migraine and if it is a pinprick black hole it will be a stomach one. I fell quite an expert having suffered for over 5O years! Good luck to you Ellie Anne. Hope this is a one off.

Greyduster Thu 08-Jun-17 12:08:20

I had one of these aural migraines last evening. It started on the way back from DD's. Fortunately I wasn't driving. DH gets them a lot and so I did what he does and lay down in a darkened room until it went away. I have only had one other and that was last year.

Bobbysgirl19 Thu 08-Jun-17 20:13:26

Yes I have had these, also told ocular migraine. Have had chunks missing in vision, also looks like coving on ceiling is whizzing round! Not nice!

knspol Fri 09-Jun-17 17:59:45

I get this quite often, zig zagged arcs in right eye always followed by severe headache over left eye. With painkillers straight away this never develops into full blown migraine. On one occasion zig zags and headache very different and lasting, rang optician who told me to go directly to eye hospital. They diagnosed vitreous detachment which generally happens slowly as we age but had happened quickly hence the problem. No need for any treatment.

Grandma2213 Sat 10-Jun-17 02:04:19

I have had migraines since I was 18 with loss of half of my vision and feeling in half of my body. This was followed by a severe headache which left me bed ridden for up to two days and a week of pain afterwards. I had a break for a couple of years in my 50s and then started to suffer from the zig zag lights, loss of vision, numbness of half of my body and then a relatively minor headache for a few hours. I also started to suffer from loss of ability to speak or remember words. People around me thought I was suffering a stroke. A new symptom has been a temporary inability to recognise faces (especially on TV) even though I know the voices and characters.

In the last few years I have also suffered macular degeneration and needed a macular repair and vitrectomy which has meant I have to shut one eye to see if it is rally a migraine and not just a result of my visual problem!

Suki70 I am horrified by the advice just "enjoy the pretty lights"! This is always frightening no matter how many times it is experienced. My GP recently said that I am of an age (70) that some of the symptoms could now indicate a stroke! This hardly helps with the stress that often leads to a migraine.

Check your symptoms out with your doctor though because they are the experts, not us.

Grandma2213 Sat 10-Jun-17 02:06:39

really not rally! (visual problems!)

Suki70 Sat 10-Jun-17 08:23:37

Grandma2213 I agree the optician's advice to "enjoy the pretty lights" was not very helpful but think she was trying to reassure me - it was the first time I had experienced them (I was in my late 50s) and had already seen a doctor who sent me to the optician. Now I'm in my 70s and have them every six weeks or so I certainly don't enjoy them as I know they'll lead to headaches and nausea for several days afterwards. I've learned over the years that tiredness and bright lights trigger them, so always wear sunglasses on bright days and avoid flashing lights. I've been prescribed Paramax which is paracetamol and an anti nausea medication.