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OH has fractured femur - not a good situation

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Luckygirl Tue 26-Mar-19 10:35:34

As many of you will know, OH has had PD for many years and is very frail. He only weighs 6.5 stone. Sadly he fell yesterday and has a displaced fracture of his femur. He is not a good candidate for surgery - but there is no choice.

It is a worry that the ward do not have the air mattress that he needs and that he has at home - we had just got on top of the skin problem. He was on a trolley for 12 hours yesterday which will not have helped.

I am waiting to hear when the op will be.

cornergran Mon 08-Apr-19 19:59:01

Can only agree with others, it sounds as if you’ll both be happier once your husband is safely home. Love to you all.

Day6 Mon 08-Apr-19 20:05:12

Isn't it wonderful that we can rely on so many posters who are familiar with procedures and practicalities? You lovely grans are a mine of ideas and information when times are troubled.

I cannot offer advice on the nuts and bolts of home care but I am so glad your lovely man is coming home Lucky. It will be easier for all of you and as you say, you know his ways and what he most needs. He has told you being with you has made him happy. This will be a special time for you both

I hope you'll be able to relax a bit more and have fewer worries, even though this remains a very difficult time for you.

Tuppnce Mon 08-Apr-19 20:05:17

Paid for by ST in our experience too. They also provided any mobility aids they deemed necessary (incontinence "nappies" too although we preferred a type I could buy online as being easier to adjust)
I hope your family can make the time to give you a break - even if only to have 40 winks !
Good luck

Tuppnce Mon 08-Apr-19 20:11:10

SS doh!

Luckygirl Mon 08-Apr-19 20:11:43

I am well and truly on to it when it comes to the Continuing Health Care funding from the NHS and will refuse to engage with Social Services (for whose care you are means tested) until the full health needs process has been gone through and a decision made as to whether he qualifies. That is the law!! I went through all this with my Dad.

Lazigirl Mon 08-Apr-19 20:47:37

I know you are an ex S/W Lucky and thankfully know the system. Trouble is they are under financial pressure and do try it on sometimes, not great when families are in vulnerable circumstances.

kittylester Tue 09-Apr-19 07:17:20

Morning lucky, hope you got some sleep. brew

Ginny42 Tue 09-Apr-19 07:34:54

Good morning Lucky, hope you're feeling better about things now he's coming home. flowers

nanaK54 Tue 09-Apr-19 08:13:51

Just sending kind thoughts at the start of a new day flowers

Lona Tue 09-Apr-19 08:37:05

Hope today is a good one for you Lucky flowers

Luckygirl Tue 09-Apr-19 11:16:53

Thank goodness this lark has its lighter moments. We are due to have a commode delivered today at a time when I have to be somewhere else; the company said I could not ask for it to be delivered to a neighbour as the driver has to demonstrate how to use it!!!

Charleygirl5 Tue 09-Apr-19 11:46:57

I do hope you will not be expected to empty and clean it Luckygirl!!!!!

Jane10 Tue 09-Apr-19 14:04:21

Luckygirl grin
Something for you to look forward to at last!!

Callistemon Tue 09-Apr-19 14:45:21

grin
We await your report!

Jane10 Tue 09-Apr-19 14:51:23

And a photo or short video? On second thoughts, perhaps not.

Bathsheba Tue 09-Apr-19 15:16:03

Oh dear, sounds as if you're going to be a bit incommoded wink

Lazigirl Tue 09-Apr-19 16:00:21

I now have a picture in my head of said delivery bloke, trousers round his ankles, sitting on toilet your hallway Lucky!

jura2 Tue 09-Apr-19 16:04:59

oh my, Lucky, thank goodness you haven't lost your SOH - despite all this ordeal. xxx

Luckygirl Tue 09-Apr-19 20:50:45

I am at the end of my tether here and just don't know what to do. It has been such a dreadful day. It is just making me ill.

He is still paranoid and confused - he thinks people are being processed on the ward and disposed of down a chute, and that there are gases and things dissolving his limbs. But in between this lot he can be relatively lucid.

We were told that he would go home with a package of care of 2 carers 4 times a day - that this is free (joint NHS and SSD funded) and also includes physio visits and could continue for up to 6 weeks. After that he would need care, either funded by continuing health care (NHS) or by a means-tested social care plan.

So, today the social worker breezes in and says we have just had an MDT meeting, the upshot of which is that they cannot offer this any more as the care agency associated with the scheme has insufficient carers (and they cannot use another agency). So.....they plan to ship him off to the same unit that he did not want before (and the consultant agreed was inappropriate) for intensive rehab TODAY (I have a sense of deja vu here) to create a situation where he might not need 2 carers - Poor OH has already made his feelings clear about going there. He just wants to go home. I did point out to them that he is not a parcel!

She then said they could do a social needs assessment and a means test and put in carers from agencies that they deal with, but we would have to pay towards it if the means test decreed this. I did venture to tell her that this is actually illegal - that a health needs assessment for continuing care funding has to be done before they can means test for "social needs." Even if we went down this route she said we would have to accept care from their chosen agencies - and once again I had to explain to her that this is not true - that there is a "direct payments" scheme under which we can choose who we have.

Now here is the rub....they will not do the health needs assessment in an acute hospital but only either at home or in a community hospital. How mad is that? You get assessed for your health needs when you are already home even though you cannot be at home without the care.

So I have no choice but to go down the social needs assessment and means test even though it is illegal - they have got me over a barrel.

Because the "client" must be involved they are talking about all this in front of my OH and he is becoming increasingly agitated.

I just despair of it all - I rally feel quite ill over it. He has already endured appalling care in one ward and now they want him out of where he is, but there seems to be some sort of dystopian world where noting makes any sense any more.

If he was eligible for the scheme outlined to us initially, then why should he now not be eligible just because one care agency happens not to have the capacity - they refuse to try another. Am I going crazy here, or is this utterly mad?

I am planning not to go in and visit tomorrow as I have reached my end here.

janeainsworth Tue 09-Apr-19 21:02:21

Oh Lucky that is heartless isn’t it?
Can you speak to the PD consultant again and see if your OH can remain on the ward he’s on for a while longer?

kittylester Tue 09-Apr-19 21:04:23

What a shambles lucky. I don't blame you needing a day off. I know you know all about it but is there someone who can advocate for you.

Can you contact your local PD society to see if they can help?

I know your DH went to a hospice - is there any chance he could go there while you get things sorted?

Maybe not even worth thinking about - someone who knows what they are talking about will be along in a bit.

(((Hugs)))

SueDonim Tue 09-Apr-19 21:06:10

That is a nightmare, Luckygirl. I know two people with family members also caught up in the web of the NHS and SS and it's dystopian, it really is. My heart goes out to you. sad.

jura2 Tue 09-Apr-19 21:13:47

This is so appalling and tragic- poor you. Yes, do speak to the Consultant again, if he knows your OH and he trusts him.

Surely, even if they have a contract with one
agency, if they haven't got the staff to do the job- then they have to agree to going elsewhere.

It is totally and absolutely wrong, and as you say, illegal - but I'd be tempted, if you can at all afford it- to pay privately and create a massive stink at a later stage.

I just cannot believe you are having to go through this- I am so so sorry. Hugs - try to get some sleep or at least rest. xxx

Mamissimo Tue 09-Apr-19 21:14:20

I’m aghast.....I think I would insist on seeing his PD consultant and demand a care assessment. If they say no contact the CQC? They are breaking the law and also not putting him at the centre of his treatment. His treatment at this hospital can’t get any worse so it’s make a full complaint time.

There is a legal company who specialises in care assessments and CC cases for people who don’t have their full voice - they were really helpful to me. I will find their details and pm you. Their focus is on making health authorities follow legal processes and to stop abuse like your husband is experiencing.

I’ll find the details and pm you. I’m so sorry!

Bellanonna Tue 09-Apr-19 21:27:12

No practical advice Lucky, but I feel for you and the horrible situation you are in. x