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SparklyGrandma Sat 25-May-19 20:20:03

Hello everyone...

SalsaQueen Thu 30-May-19 18:47:15

On a different note, has anyone here had CBT for depression? I have the type of depression without any cause (used to be called Endogenous depression), and my GP suggested I attend Talking Therapy sessions (I'm on Mirtazapine, just had the dose increased 2 weeks ago to 45mg)

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 20:06:10

Thank you x

I have no family the other side of the river and this is one of several reasons when applying for a move which give points.

Salsa I am so sorry that your brother died in an awful accident and that you witnessed it. When my husband died in a car crash I didn’t drive on that road but there were other roads.

To lose a loved loved is devastating, the difference with suicide is the unanswered questions, the thought ‘she chose to die’, we were so very close, she was devastated when her daddy died when she was 7. This made the bond between us even stronger . I always left my front door unlocked in case she needed me in the night, I still can’t lock it.

I will not go to the bridge , if it is mention in conversation , ‘
traffic jam on the bridge again’, in a flash I see her in the dark and alone and frightened , to actually see it would be more than I could cope with, the question ‘why didn’t she come to me’. she was the centre of my world. Now I centre everything on her three children.

She suffered with bipolar.

Dawn22 Thu 30-May-19 20:25:32

Annie
So sorry to hear this. You have been through so much. Just do what you can and no pressure on you. That is what l have to do, to drop the should and the ought.
Take care as we all must do. Dawn x

SalsaQueen Thu 30-May-19 21:05:14

Anniebach...so sorry. I didn't mean to upset you further. I cannot begin to imagine how terrible it must be to lose a son or daughter, especially in those circumstances. Mental illness is awful. xx

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 21:32:41

I am not upset, we share here,

I hope my post will help anyone who wants to avoid people,
My agoraphobia started because I chose not to go out, not to meet people, so ‘i don’t want to go out became ‘I can’t go out’.

Salsa I haven’t suffered the same type of depression as you, perhaps someone here can speak of CBT , I am having
EMDR Therapy for PTS and agoraphobia.

SalsaQueen Thu 30-May-19 21:44:50

Thanks, Anniebach. You're a very nice lady. Good luck with your treatments. x

Anniebach Thu 30-May-19 21:52:47

Salsa why not try the CBT? Some here have said it helped,
any remedy is worth trying to be free of the cruel illness ,
legal remedies I hasten to add x

SparklyGrandma Fri 31-May-19 05:33:45

Annie hugs...I understand the agoraphobia.

wot thank you for reassurance about the echo...

Went to Ascension Day service yesterday, it was moving and left me feeling joyful.

Morning, everyone.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 09:01:22

Good morning friends x

Thinking of you Sparkle

SparklyGrandma Fri 31-May-19 10:26:14

Thank you Annie, have a lovely day ?

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 10:28:09

Hope the tests go well for you Sparkle , ?

Nonnie Fri 31-May-19 10:40:34

Salsa I also lost my brother to a car incident, horrible isn't it? I never really got over it, think I might have found it easier to cope with if I had been able to go to his funeral.

One of the things I struggle with is not knowing the cause of my son's death. It is so hard to live with the loss of my son for apparently no reason. How can I know if I could have done something to save him?

Nonnie Fri 31-May-19 10:43:35

Insomnia musings. Does anyone else think they feel things too much? One example, I heard this morning about DT imposing 5% tariffs on Mexico and saying he will keep increasing them until they stop crossing the border. I have no affiliations with either country but am really upset that a bully can do that to poor people. Why do I feel emotional about that? Why isn't it just a rational thought? I find myself over reacting to many things which are nothing to do with me. Am I alone?

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 11:09:28

nonnie nothing can ease your grief but please take comfort in the fact your son didn’t choose to die. My husband died in a car crash, he didn’t choose to .

I think we all react to the sufferings of others , surely what is troubling are people who have no empathy for others.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 12:48:38

I give up. Have sorted my front garden so I can sit outside, the physiotherapist contacted the council asking for a hand rail to be fitted so I could walk out there , letter just arrived ,
their own occupational therapist will have to assess my need, this will take 10 weeks.

They included a list of web sites for me to see if I could identify my own solutions.

Nonnie Fri 31-May-19 13:59:09

Thanks Annie I'm still wondering whether knowing we are all in a similar position with our MH is helpful or not. Don't know.

If your physio is employed by the NHS I think they should accept their recommendation. Just looks to me like a waste of public money to get two people to look at your needs. If you feel up to it perhaps you could put that point in writing to the council, the physio and your local councillor. Might not do any good but could make you feel you are doing something.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 14:06:27

nonnie suppose it’s for each of to decide if sharing our mental health problems help or not.

No point in battling with the council, took three months to reach an agreement over the windows , that was exhausting

Nonnie Fri 31-May-19 15:14:16

Annie I didn't put it very well. I meant that I don't know whether knowing there are so many other suffers makes me (and others) feel better or worse or even makes no difference. Not really a question more of a musing.

wot Fri 31-May-19 15:21:31

I think it makes a difference to share. It reminds us that we are not alone.

Nonnie Fri 31-May-19 16:22:50

Thanks wot some days I feel better knowing I'm not alone but on other days it makes it all seem so hopeless.

Still not able to think of anything positive.

Elvive Fri 31-May-19 17:01:37

On the whole, I think reaching out and sharing can be helpful. It helps with isolation. I guess if it becomes almost a lifestyle it may not be helpful?

These are just some thoughts , I am quite clearly no expert or medically trained.

SalsaQueen Fri 31-May-19 17:54:13

Nonnie.......yes, I will try the CBT. It can't do any harm, can it? What I definitely don't want is a counsellor or someone asking me to talk about sad/unpleasant things in the past. The death of my brother, all those years ago, and the death of my mum in 1995 are easy to mention on here, to a faceless audience, but they are not what started my depression. I haven't got any reason to be depressed (plenty of people have told me that to my face), so I feel a fraud.

Today was a good day, and most days now are very good, actually. The higher dose on tablet (started a higher dose 2 weeks ago) had certainly helped enormously. It's good to be on here, too.

Anniebach Fri 31-May-19 19:11:16

Elvive sorry I don’t understand what you mean ‘almost a lifestyle, depression or posting on this thread?

Salsa do give CBT a chance to see if it helps,

‘What have you got to be depressed about’, must have caused so many to not seek help , depression strikes, that simple, that cruel.

Great you are finding your medication is helping x

Elvive Fri 31-May-19 19:14:56

I mean neither ab. I was musing on the whole idea of reaching out and sharing.

nanny2507 Fri 31-May-19 20:16:55

hello all. Annie i am so sorry about your daughter what a terrible loss for you. I wish i could make things better for you xx

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