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GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 11:18:51

Article in the DM today re the link between gut health and pill popping.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 19:34:29

It's not helpful to quote sensationalised passages from newspapers re Brexit as it too is a serious issue but there are many on here who do just that.

It is a well researched subject, not by journalists but by the medical profession in countries around the world.
The journo in this case was reiterating findings from respected sources, sources just as respected as your own doctor and a lot more knowledgeable in their field than any GP.
I wonder how many GNers have referred to news articles in a post, probably the vast majority at one time or another.
Michael Mosely presented an interesting and informative programme about 18 months ago on this subject and discussed it with doctors and professors from highly reputable UK institutions.

My two posts were invitations to explore the articles, one in a news article and one in a magazine (re type 2 diabetes) but it's funny that not one person has mentioned the latter article as me having 'thrown out' a sensationalised piece of writing and sitting smug in the knowledge that I haven't got type 2.
I wonder why.
Both articles on issues which have been discussed on here many times but only one garnering bared teeth and sniping remarks about the poster who wrote neither article.

Some people need to wind their necks in.

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 19:39:11

Perhaps not the best article to link to on a website aimed largely at older people. ie the people most likely to have to take prescription meds.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 19:40:10

Ohhh...I don't think that's true MawB.
I personally have never seen a post on any thread where someone has complained about other GNers moaning about their ills'
That would be unwarranted and no doubt removed.

Sparklefizz Wed 23-Oct-19 19:42:05

Gonegirl Actually, there is quite a lot that people can do to help themselves, but it involves more effort than just taking a pill and they don't usually want to bother until they become really ill ..... and perhaps not even then, either.

(I am an admin on a closed health forum with global membership)

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 19:42:36

Maybe it's older people who have been taking meds for many years who could be interested in finding alternatives, not 20-40 yr olds.

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 19:48:34

Oh, please do tell me how I can stop my acid reflux without the help of modern medicine Sparklefizz. Running some kind of forum obviously makes you the expert.

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 19:54:40

I know that exercise in the fresh air can help depression, but exactly what do you do when marvellous exercise leaves you exhausted?

Yes. People should definitely "wind their necks in". Or at least not make these things that they know nothing about (yet) seem so easy.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 20:02:25

It's not helpful to quote sensationalised passages from newspapers re Brexit as it too is a serious issue but there are many on here who do just that

What on earth is the link between Brexit and this article?

I'm sure if a poster had begun a discussion about the link between physical health, mental health, gut health and over medicating.....in the spirit of enquiry and care, it would have been well received.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 20:03:40

Sparklefizz......wrap your brain round this, it is possible to help oneself and take medication.

Bathsheba Wed 23-Oct-19 20:12:58

Maybe people who rely on prescribed medication to stay alive, object to having the dangers highlighted by someone who, in the next breath, proclaims her own excellent, non-pill-popping, healthy lifestyle.

The words smug, superior and high horse spring to mind.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:17:23

I thought that researchers just give out the facts and findings, not once did I read that their findings made it seem easy.
Oh well...I suppose it depends on your mood when you read it.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:21:22

Blame the writer of the article. I simply put it there for people to read IF they were interested AFTER reading the article's headline.
No-one forced you to read it and I made no comment on it.
You need to write to the DM not mouth it off at me.

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 20:22:43

The researchers used a sample of 2000 people , the DM grabbed this and decided to put it out there using provocative, sensationalist language.

Then somebody who purports to be in excellent health all the time, and not to care about the opinion of others, refers to people who take medication as pill poppers.

Oh and pretends she is trying to educate/help.

Hetty58 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:25:40

Well, I thought it was interesting (shame about the sniping) and I did notice feeling more energetic when I began drinking daily kefir.

My friend has asthma and thought she'd find out the 'cleanest' (least air polluted) area to move to. She discovered that we are bombarded by pollutants from the USA, Sahara and elsewhere, depending on the wind direction!

www.blf.org.uk/support-for-you/air-pollution/effects

www.climateaction.org/news/map-finds-nearly-2000-sites-in-the-uk-breaching-air-pollution-limits

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:30:00

Bathsheba

If you bothered to read the thread and not spout ignorant remarks, you'd know that my comment about fresh air etc was a reply to a previous post by Gonegirl, not a smug comment about my own health.
Engage ? before ?‍?

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:38:33

grapefruitpip
Please tell me in which post on this thread I wrote that I don't care about the opinion of others and where do I pretend to try to educate/help ?
I posted an article for anyone who may have had an interest.
Do you go around accusing programme makers or authors of 'pretending to educate'
Seriously...some people need to settle down.

Sparklefizz Wed 23-Oct-19 20:44:03

Of course it is, Grapefruit
Sparklefizz ,..,.,wrap your brain round this, it is possible to help oneself and take medication.

No need to get in a strop and be rude. confused

Bathsheba Wed 23-Oct-19 20:45:06

I am perfectly aware who you comment was addressed to Gabriella, having 'bothered to read the thread'. Am I not allowed to respond to comments which answer someone other than myself? Silly me, I thought all comments on a thread were for public consumption.

Bathsheba Wed 23-Oct-19 20:45:31

you your

grapefruitpip Wed 23-Oct-19 20:46:38

Actually there is a need to get in a strop.

There are vulnerable people on this site, perhaps afraid to seek help from a GP.

I don't believe this thread helps them or is kind.

Sparklefizz Wed 23-Oct-19 20:46:51

GoneGirl I could tell you what I do to help myself with it, as indeed I told you earlier this year on here, but clearly sarcasm is your forte and you're not really interested so there's no point in me wasting my energy.

Good luck with taking your PPI. If you are happy with it, then far be it from me to suggest otherwise.

GabriellaG54 Wed 23-Oct-19 20:49:18

Anyway...talk among yourselves.
The usual suspects have decided to start their playground antics yet again.
Instead of ignoring an article in which they have no interest (but read anyway and derided the contents)
It's their BP which will be raised, certainly not mine.
Laughable and faintly ridiculous old ladies acting out their frustrations. ???

Marydoll Wed 23-Oct-19 20:51:04

I too was interested in the article. That's what it was, an article, not the personal opinion of the OP. As a regular user of steroids and on antibiotics for life, I was already aware of the points made in the article and the implications of taking these drugs. It's not new information.

It's all about what is right for the patient and deciding, without meaning to sound dramatic, what is the lesser evil, death or an unhealthy gut.
However, I'm disappointed that the thread has gone off track, I was hoping for an interesting discussion.

Sparklefizz Wed 23-Oct-19 20:56:10

Hetty58 I love kefir!

Gonegirl Wed 23-Oct-19 21:01:12

Of course I'm not happy with it Sparklefizz. But I need it.