I have mental health illnes Its not a problem

I've experienced panic/anxiety attacks in the past janey, not as bad as you've described but bad enough.

Well done for coping as well as you do.

I prefer "condition" too. I've suffered over the years due to a bad childhood mostly but also due to other illness causing my hormones to become unbalanced and then getting the wrong treatment because doctors were very uavailable due to covid.

Whatever causes these things for people, it can be extremely difficult to navigate life.

I do like accepting it as part of yourself and understanding yourself, even liking yourself as a person who has mental health conditions but the other side of that is that many mental health conditions can be treated and some can be fully healed.

We should never suffer in silence and that is why drawing attention is a good thing. We are empowering people to get the right help. Not everyone has to suffer or find a way to accept the way they are indefinitely. Perhaps being patient and loving themselves on the journey to recovery would be better.

FannyCornforth

Thinking about it Pippa, I just think of it as being part of my personality really.

Condition simply indicates a state of health, whether well or ill; a condition conferring illness might be further classified as a disease or a disorder—however, [the word] condition might be used in place of disease or disorder when a value-neutral term is desired.

I think the wish for a value-neutral term is why the word "condition" seems more comfortable.

I have IBS. It is a condition. Sometimes I am ill with it and for that period of time it is an illness. Sometimes I am not.

I have Anxiety. It is a condition. Sometimes I am ill with it and for that period of time it is an illness. Sometimes I am not.

In my experience, if any health condition affects my daily life and limits what is possible, it is an illness.

Thank you Pippa, that is very wise and true (and beautifully succinct )

FannyCornforth

Thanks Doodledog, I didn’t know that Spam was an acronym

Oh, I made that up . It's definitely not just advertising, though, and didn't want Calmlocket to feel bad about being corrected, particularly as the correction was inaccurate.

Oh, wrists thoroughly slapped Doodledog!
I was trying to insinuate that it was wrong to dismiss the op as ‘spam’ or whatever else iyswim

Anniebach

Mental and physical illnesses cause problems.

Quite. As do disabilities both visible and invisible.

janey a lot of us on Gransnet have various mental health issues and I’m no exception. I suffer from anxiety and depression but I take medication which makes me feel much better. I wonder if your medication needs to be reviewed to make sure it’s working properly. I did wonder if you had been drinking before you posted as it was very late and you were very angry. In my experience alcohol and medication don’t mix well and perhaps the front of your pill packet says you shouldn’t drink alcohol while on the medication? One of mine says that. Forgive me if I have jumped to conclusions and you hadn’t touched a drop but alcohol does make some people very depressed and aggressive, just the way their body reacts to it, pills or no pills.
People are a lot more aware of mental illness than they used to be and there is not the stigma attached to it that there used to be. I always talk openly about the problems I have, and they are problems just as an illness affecting another part of your body can cause, heart or stomach problems or arthritis for instance.
If you think someone is looking at you (and after all you must be looking at them to notice it!) just try to look away and focus on something else. My Mum always told me not to stare, perhaps yours did too? Going up to someone and being aggressive asking if they think the vegetables will talk back to you will only make things worse and you could get into trouble.
I do hope you’re seeing your doctor regularly and telling him what you’ve told us. He or she is there to help.
I hope you’re feeling better now and that you will have a nice and peaceful weekend.

I did wonder if you had been drinking before you posted as it was very late and you were very angry

Well that's going to make the OP feel better about herself!

She posted at 06.46.

I thought that GSM’s post was really kind

Baggs

Anniebach

Mental and physical illnesses cause problems.

Quite. As do disabilities both visible and invisible.

Is anyone saying they don't?

pippa I have worked with mental illness and I m quite clued up about social anxiety making nervousness sound aggressive I was hoping to encourage the poster to writing in a little less confrontational way
Unless Janey comes back we llnever know though

So much aggression

Gosh - yes, I agree Anniebach

PippaZ

Baggs

Anniebach

Mental and physical illnesses cause problems.

Quite. As do disabilities both visible and invisible.

Is anyone saying they don't?

Not that I'm aware of, pippa. Is one only allowed to mention something if it's countered by something else in the thread?

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I never knew that SPAM was an acronym for that, thanks Doodledog

I can spell although, quite often, my posts may not give that impression. I'm not so good at typing.

I wonder if social anxiety has increased over the past couple of years because of Covid too, and people have become more suspicious of one another?

Callistemon I thought that too, but Doodledog said that she’d made it up!

but by educating people telling them what to look for so we are no longer invissable but more highlighted with a flashing head post saying OVER HERE LOOK IM MAD has made it more difficult for me to go out in crowded public places.

Apologies if I'm misunderstanding you here janeyxx but are you saying that educating people about mental illness is a bad thing? Is it really preferable that mental illness is not discussed and should be kept hidden? Surely I've misunderstood?

PippaZ your post at 10.13 today regarding paranoia is spot on. I've witnessed it. Very difficult to witness and deal with.

FannyCornforth

Callistemon I thought that too, but Doodledog said that she’d made it up!

I missed that ???

It sounds feasible though!!

E

Thanks Fanny.
Apologies Riverwalk, I misread the time as just after midnight but I did read the post twice and I still think alcohol may have been in the mix to produce such a stream of anger. In which case better if it had been just after midnight perhaps but who am I to judge.

Anniebach

So much aggression

Who is being or what is aggressive Annie? I think I must have missed something. Has anyone actually said that mental, physical illnesses, those visible and invisible don't cause problems? I cannot see any comment like this.

It's a bit of a loaded comment just to throw it in and not explain what you are referring to. Pretty unpleasant in itself in my opinion.

I remember having crippling Health Anxiety after having my daughter. I was convinced I had the same illness as my mother (who had died 5 years previously) and that I would die and leave my daughter motherless.

I remember having awful Health Anxiety after I had my daughter. I was convinced that I had the same illness as my mother, who had died 5 years previously, and I would die and leave my daughter motherless, as I had been left. It was horrible

Sorry, that posted twice. Apologies!