Transgender people who start their hormones as teenagers have “far better” mental health than if they wait until adulthood, new research says.
Experts have found that transgender people who begin hormone treatment in adolescence had fewer suicidal thoughts, were less likely to experience major mental health disorders and had fewer problems with substance abuse than those who started hormones later in life.
The study, which was led by the Stanford University School of Medicine, gathered data from the largest-ever survey of US transgender adults where 27,715 people responded in 2015.
Researchers found that, as well as fewer mental health concerns when taking the drugs as teenagers, those who took the drugs at any age had better mental health than those who wanted them but had never received them.
Of the people surveyed, 21,598 reported they had received the hormones they wanted. Of these people, 119 began hormones at age 14 or 15; 362 at age 16 and 17 and 12,157 following their 18th birthday.
Some 8,860 people surveyed said they wanted but never received hormone therapy and acted as the control group for the study.
Odds of severe psychological distress were reduced by 222 per cent, 153 per cent and 81 per cent for those who began hormones in early adolescence, late adolescence and adulthood, respectively.
Odds of feeling suicidal in the previous year were 135 per cent lower in those who began hormones in early adolescence, 62 per cent lower in those who began in late adolescence and 21 per cent lower in those who began as adults, compared with the control group.
Dr Jack Turban, lead author on the study and expert in paediatric and adolescent psychiatry at Stanford Medicine, said: “This study is particularly relevant now because many state legislatures are introducing bills that would outlaw this kind of care for transgender youth.
“We are adding to the evidence base that shows why gender-affirming care is beneficial from a mental health perspective.”
In the UK, hormone drugs can only be given to people from the age of 16 who have been on puberty blockers for at least 12 months.
Last September, the UK Court of Appeal overturned a judgment that children under the age of 16 considering gender reassignment were unlikely to be mature enough to give informed consent to be prescribed puberty-blocking drugs.
www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/transgender-hormones-teenager-mental-health-b1991724.html
So, about giving hormones to teens mentioned in the OP .
Is the statement that teens are being given hormones correct or is GJ’s later statement that it takes till they are 18 (adult) to get the hormone access correct?
I’m still awaiting your evidence of trans being cancelled.
Yes it is a shame that I went to a length to explain something clearly and just one word was picked out meaning the rest of what I said with no offense intended was ignored.
As I have said ad nauseam, but you either don't read or don't listen, I would prefer to say it as it is. Woman, Man, Transwoman, Transman. No implied difference in status, no differentials in rights. No confusion when it comes to sport health, intimate examinations and so on. No need to force women to give up their identity to please transwomen.
Sorry - I missed a page here. I was replying to trisher's post at the bottom of the previous page.
It's a shame how this post turned out because the results of the study are pure common sense
Those suffering gender dysphoria will of course benefit mentally with earlier support from professionals.
Also having supportive family and friends will of course result in much better mental health.
Being harassed or bullied at school will of course cause worse mental health.
Being harassed or bullied in the community as an adult will of course result in worse mental health.
Having unsupportive family and being harassed at school or later in the community will of course result in the worst mental health.
That's logic and common sense and it is a shame that a study had to be conducted to show that evidence and a further shame that study would still be doubted.
As I've said a few times VioletSky, cancel culture. The gender critical shut debate down time and time again.
GagaJo
As I've said a few times VioletSky, cancel culture. The gender critical shut debate down time and time again.
Oh please!! Who coined and used extensively the phrase 'No debate'? How could you have missed the banners emblazoned with that slogan proudly held aloft by the TRAs?
I am talking about this thread on this forum. As you clearly know. Yet more diversionary tactics.
Sorry but that's hilarious. Do you think we have forgotten no debate. Do you think we havent got thousands of examples going back years of the rallying cry of no debate. And thousands of examples of threats of violence, women being sacked, being sent porn, etc.
Really? So a few women can't even talk respectfully as adults here about a topic we are all interested in? That is what these forums are for.
But no. Cancel culture. Shut it down. Causing arguments and unplesantness.
Oh sorry did I not respond in the way you wanted. Is that you trying to cancel me? Dont be ridiculous. No one is shutting down debate, we are asking questions, expressing points of view.
Doodledog
As I have said ad nauseam, but you either don't read or don't listen, I would prefer to say it as it is. Woman, Man, Transwoman, Transman. No implied difference in status, no differentials in rights. No confusion when it comes to sport health, intimate examinations and so on. No need to force women to give up their identity to please transwomen.
I agree.
What I do find telling is those, even in the Lords, who insist on transwomen being able to participate as women in all areas, don't campaign for transmen to be able to oust their younger brothers in the hereditary stakes. Hmmm I wonder why?
VioletSky all people benefit from loving support from family and friends, and no bullying from the community at large. I'd hope that anybody struggling with their mental health would receive support and counselling to better understand themselves and come to peace.
GagaJo so now you're presuming to tell me what I know? As for diversionary tactics.......???
I find it very concerning that trans people are out there truly suffering and that people who are not suffering the same way want to put themselves first again...
But if we point out that they are putting themselves first, that means we don't care about them...
When what we are asking for is equality of care, everything the same.
And I expect I am now rude or passive aggressive or playing victim for just not seeing any logic in the arguments that somehow these figures could be wrong or not comprehensive enough...
As if we didn't already know the affects of not being supported with medical conditions or needs from experience. The harm to education, the harm to developing social skills, the harm to mental health, the harm to a child just being allowed to exist as they are and reach their full potential.
Simple example: Glasses.
How many have previously been delayed in getting sight tests? How many struggled to read the board at school? How many children still to this day refuse to wear needed glasses through fear of being bullied? How many are still to this day bullied for wearing glasses? How does that then affect their mental health, education, social skills. How is that compounded by parents who neglect their child's needs in the first place or worse, are cruel enough to also bully them.
As grown up adults we should all know, bullying someone about appearance is ridiculous and that it is the person on the inside that matters, not whether they need to change their appearance to be able to engage in life meaningfully.
Doodledog
As I have said ad nauseam, but you either don't read or don't listen, I would prefer to say it as it is. Woman, Man, Transwoman, Transman. No implied difference in status, no differentials in rights. No confusion when it comes to sport health, intimate examinations and so on. No need to force women to give up their identity to please transwomen.
I know what you have said Doodledog but let's face facts that is actually trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted. Just as woman now encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become women, so man encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become men. So as I see it you have a choice you can stick with woman, in which case you might be either born or trans, or you can ask for some other form of address you find acceptable. You don't like cis. So choose something else, because if you just stick with woman then you could be either, which doesn't bother people like me but apparently you want some delineation.
Could you please explain how my statements which have included 'I would like young people with gender dysphoria to receive adequate medical care" are putting me first.
What I do find telling is those, even in the Lords, who insist on transwomen being able to participate as women in all areas, don't campaign for transmen to be able to oust their younger brothers in the hereditary stakes. Hmmm I wonder why?
Is there a case of someone trying to do this? I'd back them completely. The H of L may take longer to face reality, they often do.
trisher
Doodledog
As I have said ad nauseam, but you either don't read or don't listen, I would prefer to say it as it is. Woman, Man, Transwoman, Transman. No implied difference in status, no differentials in rights. No confusion when it comes to sport health, intimate examinations and so on. No need to force women to give up their identity to please transwomen.
I know what you have said Doodledog but let's face facts that is actually trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted. Just as woman now encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become women, so man encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become men. So as I see it you have a choice you can stick with woman, in which case you might be either born or trans, or you can ask for some other form of address you find acceptable. You don't like cis. So choose something else, because if you just stick with woman then you could be either, which doesn't bother people like me but apparently you want some delineation.
So what you're actually saying is a group of people decided to bully their way into a category that didn't include them, and the original category just have to take it? Nice. Will that equally apply to any other groups who wish to bully and take over another group's identity?
Galaxy
Could you please explain how my statements which have included 'I would like young people with gender dysphoria to receive adequate medical care" are putting me first.
Galaxy If you haven't personally said something I think you can safely ignore comments about it as not directed towards yourself.
Despite the apparent "sides" in these discussions, views do differ from person to person and it wouldn't really be constructive to place everyone in some sort of "same" box
Rosie please explain how trans women (and trans men if they matter here) are bullying anyone by simply existing and wanting to ide tify as the gender they believe themselves to be
Rosie51
trisher
Doodledog
As I have said ad nauseam, but you either don't read or don't listen, I would prefer to say it as it is. Woman, Man, Transwoman, Transman. No implied difference in status, no differentials in rights. No confusion when it comes to sport health, intimate examinations and so on. No need to force women to give up their identity to please transwomen.
I know what you have said Doodledog but let's face facts that is actually trying to close the stable door after the horse has bolted. Just as woman now encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become women, so man encompasses those born and those who have chosen to become men. So as I see it you have a choice you can stick with woman, in which case you might be either born or trans, or you can ask for some other form of address you find acceptable. You don't like cis. So choose something else, because if you just stick with woman then you could be either, which doesn't bother people like me but apparently you want some delineation.
So what you're actually saying is a group of people decided to bully their way into a category that didn't include them, and the original category just have to take it? Nice. Will that equally apply to any other groups who wish to bully and take over another group's identity?
No one "bullied" me Rosie51 for the simple reason that I know they have been there all the time. They haven't suddenly appeared from anywhere they've just opened up, taken off their veils and revealed them selves. In doing so they have been subjected to abuse and condemnation just as people who are different always are. The sad thing is that some of those doing the abusing are women.
Exactly trisher. Historically, those menwomen walked among us and we were unaware that being a man or a woman was a choice for them. Now, some of them are out of the closet. No real difference, other than their being open now.
*men and women
Then it would be helpful if you could specify who you are talking about rather than making sweeping statements. I would not say those who arent gender critical on the thread are racists for example.
I would say that was a racist remark 'Billy'.
It means people can make any claims they like, and these claims often are not just true.
Sorry but everyone knew. Women pretended in order to be kind.
Just realised I have made my own sweeping statement
. Generally people can tell what sex people are.
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