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susytish Wed 06-Apr-22 20:35:40

I am driven mad with arthritis in right knee. Have had 2 different injections, seen an osteopath, now seeing a physio. The pain and lack of mobility are making me depressed and I cry every day now.
What do others do?

Pammie1 Sat 09-Apr-22 21:11:47

LadyWee

argymargy

A most effective way to relieve pain in knee and hip joints is to reduce the weight put on them. I think clinicians often don’t emphasise this because people don’t react well to being told to lose weight and prefer a quick fix. @Pammiel your local formulary committee may have restricted prescribing of naproxen. Different areas make different rules on drugs, even though they are licensed and available.

This!

I agree up to a point but weight loss has no bearing on the actual disease progression of Rheumatoid Arthritis as it’s an autoimmune disease, although in my own case lightening the load, so to speak, has helped with the pain for now.

Mamie Fri 08-Apr-22 07:20:07

Is that just rheumatoid arthritis or osteo as well, do you know Maw?
My DH has osteoarthritis in neck, shoulders, wrists, hips and fingers. Our GP (France) gives diclofenac, paracetamol and limited codeine. She also sends him regularly for x-rays, followed by 20 weeks of physio, which does help a lot.
He is never pain-free though.

MawtheMerrier Fri 08-Apr-22 06:55:48

Coastpath

halfpint1

Nobody is talking about diet here.
I tracked my bouts of knee pain to potatoes and tomatoes, remain pain free now. It's worth the effort

Is this a generally known thing halfpint1? If not, how did you narrow it down to those two foods? I'm keen to know more!

Some people believe that the solanine contained in nightshade vegetables may cause inflammation, or make inflammation related to arthritis worse.
While some people may report a worsening of symptoms when eating nightshades that contain solanine, there is no research to support that solanine has a direct effect on inflammation or arthritis pain. Instead, these symptoms may be caused by or related to a food sensitivity to the nightshade family.
A 2010 study suggests that eating purple or yellow potatoes may, in fact, reduce inflammation and DNA damage. These species contain high levels of antioxidants, including carotenoids, which the authors suggest may prevent cell damage.
Or this
blog.arthritis.org/living-with-arthritis/nightshades-arthritis/

LadyWee Fri 08-Apr-22 05:59:15

argymargy

A most effective way to relieve pain in knee and hip joints is to reduce the weight put on them. I think clinicians often don’t emphasise this because people don’t react well to being told to lose weight and prefer a quick fix. @Pammiel your local formulary committee may have restricted prescribing of naproxen. Different areas make different rules on drugs, even though they are licensed and available.

This!

Janamax Thu 07-Apr-22 21:49:30

Have you tried a knee support? I have Rheumatoid Arthritis in my right knee and I've just started wearing a compression knee support. I now sleep better at night and I can walk a lot better too. The pain is greatly reduced and my knee feels stronger when I wear it. I thoroughly recommend giving one a try.

Coastpath Thu 07-Apr-22 21:32:05

halfpint1

Nobody is talking about diet here.
I tracked my bouts of knee pain to potatoes and tomatoes, remain pain free now. It's worth the effort

Is this a generally known thing halfpint1? If not, how did you narrow it down to those two foods? I'm keen to know more!

HowVeryDareYou Thu 07-Apr-22 08:15:06

Callistemon21 Your GP isn't up to much then

Esspee Thu 07-Apr-22 07:34:04

Osteoarthritis is linked to low oestrogen levels. Depending on your age and medical history you may find HRT a great help.

If you have daughters they should be made aware that supplementing oestrogen from the perimenopausal period could help prevent them suffering from osteoarthritis.

argymargy Thu 07-Apr-22 07:24:06

A most effective way to relieve pain in knee and hip joints is to reduce the weight put on them. I think clinicians often don’t emphasise this because people don’t react well to being told to lose weight and prefer a quick fix. @Pammiel your local formulary committee may have restricted prescribing of naproxen. Different areas make different rules on drugs, even though they are licensed and available.

Juliet27 Thu 07-Apr-22 07:23:23

I have shoulder arthritis and although I didn’t imagine that taking turmeric tablets would help, I’m sure they really have relieved much of the pain. My general go to painkiller is ibuprofen but of course there are concerns about its long term effect on the stomach so, as I also find my pain reacts to weather changes, I take just one of those in the morning and one in the evening on bad weather days. I’d forgotten about Omaziprole for protecting the stomach.

tanith Thu 07-Apr-22 07:20:13

I’m sorry you are in so much pain you need to speak to your GP if you haven’t already, stress how much it’s affecting your life, the pain and affect on your mobility. Painkillers/anti-inflammatories at least and possibly surgery.
I can also confirm Naproxen is not banned I’ve taken it in the past for my Arthritic pain while awaiting surgery and was prescribed it with a stomach protecter 2 mths ago for a bout of Sciatica which is now improving thank goodness.
Please talk to your GP he must help you.

FannyCornforth Thu 07-Apr-22 07:15:55

Callistemon21

^He's been prescribed Naproxen^
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.

Blimey Callistemon

I’m on 500mg naproxen twice a day; plus Pregabalin and Tramodol (both controlled drugs)

halfpint1 Thu 07-Apr-22 07:07:56

Nobody is talking about diet here.
I tracked my bouts of knee pain to potatoes and tomatoes, remain pain free now. It's worth the effort

Hetty58 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:55:34

My friend's mum is having some kind of artificial cartilage added - under epidural, as she can't have a general anaesthetic. The injections did help her for a few years, now it's 'bone on bone' pain!

Pammie1 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:43:49

Callistemon21

snowberryZ

Callistemon21

He's been prescribed Naproxen
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.

Naproxen hasn't been banned.
You have to take it wirh Omaziprole to protect the stomach.

Well, they won't prescribe it at all - I asked but they said it is not prescribed any more.

www.nhs.uk/medicines/naproxen/about-naproxen/. Here’s the link to the NHS website page which details how naproxen is used and the conditions for which it’s prescribed. The page was last reviewed in January 2022 and there’s no mention of it being stopped. Might be useful if you want to challenge your GP.

grannydarkhair Wed 06-Apr-22 22:38:55

My sister-in-law has had both knee joints and a hip replaced, albeit at different times. Order was knee, hip, knee. She’s on a waiting list for her other hip, has been since before the start of COVID. She’s now well into her 80s, uses a walking stick when walking on hard surfaces outdoors, but still manages to do some of her own housework, plus potters about in her garden for hours. She found, prior to each surgery, that painkillers (can’t remember what, but it wasn’t Paracetamol) and daily physio helped and still does to relieve the pain.

Callistemon21 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:35:23

Thanks Fennel

Callistemon21 Wed 06-Apr-22 22:35:06

snowberryZ

Callistemon21

He's been prescribed Naproxen
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.

Naproxen hasn't been banned.
You have to take it wirh Omaziprole to protect the stomach.

Well, they won't prescribe it at all - I asked but they said it is not prescribed any more.

Fennel Wed 06-Apr-22 22:12:56

Have a look at hyaloronic injections.
They are meant to promote the regrowth of cartilage in the worn-out joint.
Husband had an injection of this and it worked. It as when we were moving house.
You might have to pay though.

snowberryZ Wed 06-Apr-22 22:01:29

Callistemon21

^He's been prescribed Naproxen^
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.

Naproxen hasn't been banned.
You have to take it wirh Omaziprole to protect the stomach.

snowberryZ Wed 06-Apr-22 22:00:33

susytish

I am driven mad with arthritis in right knee. Have had 2 different injections, seen an osteopath, now seeing a physio. The pain and lack of mobility are making me depressed and I cry every day now.
What do others do?

I feel for you susytish.
Chronic pain is awful
A lot of painkillers have awful side effects as well.

Nannytopsy Wed 06-Apr-22 22:00:25

My GP said paracetamol and ibuprofen and I had 2 phone calls from a physio once the X-ray showed severe arthritis in my knee. After 2 years, I have not seen an orthopod and am nowhere near any waiting list. The only thing which helped was acupuncture but £40 each week? I now have hip pain so I shall see the physios face to face!

Pammie1 Wed 06-Apr-22 21:59:34

Callistemon21

^He's been prescribed Naproxen^
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.

Naproxen hasn’t been banned - I can attest to that as it’s prescribed by the rheumatology clinic as part of rheumatoid arthritis treatment. It does cause digestive problems if taken long term, but in short bursts it really helps to bring down inflammation and tackle pain.

Pammie1 Wed 06-Apr-22 21:56:01

Have your healthcare professionals done the relevant tests to see whether it’s osteo or rheumatoid arthritis ? I was being treated for osteo arthritis to several joints including left knee. After the knee joint flared up badly I was referred for some tests and diagnosed with rheumatoid arthritis as well as osteo - the treatment options for which are very different to those of osteo arthritis, as rheumatoid is an auto immune disease rather than wear and tear of the joint. I was referred to a rheumatologist and the treatment was modified from there. The pain and inflammation resulting from arthritis can be severe and you need an anti inflammatory such as Naproxen to tackle it. I would be asking for your condition to be reviewed to make sure the diagnosis is correct.

Callistemon21 Wed 06-Apr-22 21:54:48

He's been prescribed Naproxen
Oh lucky him - my GP said it has been banned!!

I am having physio, well, given some printouts of exercises.