Excess Deaths - 1000 per week

Watching the covid vaccine damage play out in real time is one of the most depressing crimes I’ve ever had to witness. Peoples lives destroyed for a useless jab that was either about profit, or a mass experimental disastrous trial. STOP THE COVID VACCINE NOW!

Oh dear, another one.

Varian ...do stop deriding those who disagree with you.
It's so anti democratic, not to say childish.

Have your point of view. Express it by all means, but leave off the name calling please.

What name calling?

Is this a message from The Daily Express?

Yes

Thought so. Thanks for confirming it.

Sorry forgot 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Namsnanny

Varian ...do stop deriding those who disagree with you.
It's so anti democratic, not to say childish.

Have your point of view. Express it by all means, but leave off the name calling please.

I don't think anyone really opposes differing opinions.

But if someone claims that a crime is being - or has been - committed, some factual information, citation, or reference is kind of expected, no?

I also have some misgivings about the side effects - known side-effects, possible ones, and those attributed to the vaccine, but wouldn't demand in shouty capitals that the vaccine be stopped without having some firm evidence to back up that demand. It's a bit like being hit over the head by a placard! And it's hard to give due respect to that kind of 'argument'.

Anyway, I didn't see any name-calling.

Shouty caps. Yes, I agree, not neccessary. Not something I would do.
But I wasn't defending that poster or their style.

Name calling, where ???

Probably would have been clearer if I said unnecessary insults.

New evidence confirms that fewer people die in better vaccinated communities

Article in The British Medical Journal April 2022

Namsnanny

Probably would have been clearer if I said unnecessary insults.

... usually - or should I say, not infrequently, - anti-vaxxers accuse the vaccinated of being "sheeple" and urge us to "wake up" (in CAPITALS mostly). And when asked for their evidence (of whatever insult they believe is being perpetrated on the general public), we are told to "do your own research".

At least Usernametaken held back on the insults and simply demanded that we STOP IT NOW!

From what I can gather, quite a few people have concerns about the vaccine's side effects, and it's not at all unreasonable to be uneasy because there are reports of damaging effects on a few individuals. But I think the biggest "crime" was committed by the government being ill prepared; Johnson missing 5 initial COBRA meetings; being too late off the starting blocks; and elderly people being pitchforked into care homes.
... and now he, Boris Johnson, is back on the scene via the Carlton Club urging the Party to select him as their leader once again to lead them to victory in the next election, belittling Starmer... but not a word about the crisis that is on so many people's minds - the failing and flailing NHS. Nor the current high death toll.

Tory MP Andrew Bridgen loses whip over ‘dangerous’ Covid vaccine claims

www.theguardian.com/politics/2023/jan/11/tory-mp-andrew-bridgen-loses-whip-over-covid-vaccine-comments

'Mind-boggling ignorance':

Holocaust survivor criticises Andrew Bridgen's vaccine remarks

A retired immunologist who survived Nazi concentration camps has criticised a Tory MP who compared COVID vaccines with the Holocaust.

news.sky.com/story/mind-boggling-ignorance-holocaust-survivor-criticises-andrew-bridgens-vaccine-remarks-12784652

COVID-19 Vaccines Work

www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/effectiveness/work.html

Thanks for the links, varian.

I've been wandering around the ZeroHedge website mentioned in the article about Bridgen...

... very Ayn Rand.

It was extremely hot. That won't have helped. Also the Queen dying will have upset and unsettled a lot of older people.
And of course its so difficult to see a GP. Waits in A&E and increased cost of living. Many factors causing this.

This is a link to an excellent documentary from Channel 4. It is rather long - an hour and a half and starts telling the story of the disgraced fraudster Andrew Wakefield who was struck off the UK medical register but then went to the USA and made a lot of money by deception.

I recommend watching the whole programme but if you are only interested in the anti-covid vaccine conspirators, that is covered in the second half.

What is very clear is that the cynical manipulation of vulnerable credible people is all about huge profits for the fraudsters.

www.channel4.com/programmes/the-anti-vax-conspiracy/on-demand/71923-001

varian

This is a link to an excellent documentary from Channel 4. It is rather long - an hour and a half and starts telling the story of the disgraced fraudster Andrew Wakefield who was struck off the UK medical register but then went to the USA and made a lot of money by deception.

I recommend watching the whole programme but if you are only interested in the anti-covid vaccine conspirators, that is covered in the second half.

What is very clear is that the cynical manipulation of vulnerable credible people is all about huge profits for the fraudsters.

www.channel4.com/programmes/the-anti-vax-conspiracy/on-demand/71923-001

... thanks again, varian. I shall make time to watch the programme.

I can understand people wanting information on the vaccines. The trials did proceed at an unprecedented speed, but that was partly due to the existing knowledge on the Coronavirus - and the unparalleled funding, and huge numbers of volunteers, let's not forget. And not because some deep state, shady body, was attempting to control the world's population by planting a micro-chip under the skin to track and programme them! If anyone knows anything about data-mining and modern technology, they should know that this happens anyway... search for an item that you want to buy on Google and before you know it, adverts will appear for that item as you peruse online! The majority of websites we visit are tracking us, and the most basic way of identifying you is via your IP address - no need for personal micro-chips!
Conspiracy theories appear to be held by the extremes of Left and Right who don't seem to understand that the world is always in a state of constant change, but that doesn't align with their way of thinking. So any event in this complex world of ours that doesn't line up is dismissed as a 'false-flag', or, as a certain ex POTUS used to say, "fake noos"...