Camilla

I know Mollygo but the reports seem consistent

Reports ? all from the media, or did she have a medical examination and the results published .

Diana herself said ‘I knew I had to keep myself tidy’ ,

No time for her, Charles or any of them. Diana was a lamb to the slaughter. Camilla helped set up that marriage. Diana wasn't perfect no one is.

She was used as a breeding machine and discarded when H was born as the heir and the spare were now provided.

With her difficult childhood and used as she was it's no wonder she had M/H problems. Her affairs were a response and looking for love.

Camilla and Chatles never stopped seeing each other.

As for Camilla she has been proved as all the royal leaks, lies and twisting of the truth have come from her.

After the Queen passed the monarchy finished for me.

I don't care that Charles and Camilla are good for each other. They are alive. Diana isn't.

The country would probably be more accepting of them, if Diana had lived.

Everyone I speak to and know of aren't interested in the ConANation

We don't really know what she wanted but the Palace did. Her dating life wasn't out of the ordinary, but she was seen by the palace as "experienced" — and because the relationships were public knowledge, Camilla couldn't put up a pretense of purity. There you go - had to be a virgin back in 1981 (if you were a Royal) !

Keffie12
This everyone I speak to and know makes me laugh. So what?
I can equally say that everyone I speak to and know is going to be either watching it or taking part in a celebratory party, or even both.
Since posting or reading on GN is a form of speaking or listening to others, neither your statement or mine is absolutely true.
I expect there will be arguments that, since we are all anonymous, we don’t know each other, but is posting on GN like talking into a void or do posters expect a response to their posts, like in a conversation.

I don’t have a problem with it. He should of been allowed to marry her in the first place.

A lot of what Diana said in the Panorama interview, (which has influenced people's attitude to her marriage) was put into her mind by Martin Bashir. Twiggy pregnant by Charles, forged bank statements etc. etc. Bashir is at the back of a lot of the current thinking, and most of it was manipulative wickedness on his part, assisted by her brother.

I still have not discovered why this was posted under "Health".

And probably never will.

There seems to be a lot of weight being given to whether Camilla will be known as Queen Consort or Queen. There is no difference. The wife of a ruling monarch is always given the honorary title of queen, while the male spouse of a queen regnant is always known as a consort (unless, like Queen Mary I’s husband Philip, who was king in his own right, although if Spain, not England, or William III, who was invited to share the throne with Mary to strengthen the Protestant monarchy).

25 years ago the country was breaking its heart over Diana's death. And Camilla was loathed by many. Camilla's OK, just OK & I think King Charles has improved greatly. So sad that in what seems a relatively short time, most people have forgotten Diana's charisma and immediacy & beauty & courage & complacently say most of it was her own fault & Camilla will be a better queen.
I'll watch for the history and the music & because King Charles seems vulnerable & so I want him to do well.

Agree with you Koalama. Camilla has had a good whitewash treatment from newspapers and other media. To soften us up for her coronation. Must have been an expensive exercise as it’s so telentless

Only some of the country was breaking its heart over Diana’s death, the same way as only some of the country are for or against Camilla.
Some had as poor an opinion of Diana as others now have about Camilla.

Camilla would always have been Queen - the wife of a King is always a Queen (take the Queen's mother for example), technically they are Queen Consort but every wife of a King has been called just Queen following their coronation. It is different for the husband of a Queen Regnant (Queen in her own right by right of birth) such as Philip and Albert - as the title of Queen is subordinate to that of King, they are titled Prince and are technically Prince Consorts. Its really not that difficult to understand if you know your British history. I have no issues with Camilla and cannot understand the obsession with Diana who was a vacuous self-absorbed woman who would in no way have been fit to be a future Queen.

It’s called hindsight. Here we are decades down the road and we see, read, understand more of how Princess Diana (femme fatale) was as a person. Love her or hate her, it was a soap opera for the world to feast on.

Let’s face it… Charles was a “guy” like any other, first and foremost and his testosterone lead him to Camilla.

Would she have made a good Queen? Personally, I think, not as good as Camilla will be. (And I loved Princess Di.)
USA Gundy

…. A vacuous, self absorbed woman wh would in no way have been fit to be a future Queen

That’s your opinion Saerana and of course you’re free to express it, many might agree with your point of view. I couldn’t describe Diana in this way. I share the view that Diana had a tough deal at age 19. Like many from her social background, including Prince Charles, her childhood wasn’t one that produced a stable, well rounded individual.

I don’t think that she was like that either.
She was accomplished in many areas, including dance and piano.
I can’t imagine that a girl of ‘her breeding’ would have had the education then that she would now.
I’m very into graphology, and her handwriting certainly wasn’t that of a stupid person.
She didn’t have to do all the good things that she did do, as her style and beauty alone garnered all of the attention that she desired.
If she really was ‘vacuous’ it would have been easier for her to shit up and put up, which was what was expected

A thoughtful comment there from FannyCornforth.
I agree that Diana had many qualities. However in his documentary Charles made a point of saying that Camilla was exceptionally skilled with people terms of working the room. She has a good sense of humour. Diana stunned and was kind and sympathetic but I think she was perhaps a bit shallow.

Thank you Bizziebee
I wonder if Diana would have become ‘less’ shallow as she matured?
It’s easy to forget how young she was when she died. She was only 36, she was just 30 when they divorced.
It’s impossible to compare Diana then to Camilla now

Definitely FannyCornforth.
Though Camilla was the eldest child of 3 : often more confident abd talkative. Diana was youngest of 3 sisters, so maybe less so. Who knows??

I'm not a royalist - so I'm failing to take much interest in current events. Still, I do feel sorry for Camilla, with so much hate directed at her.

Bizziebe

Definitely FannyCornforth.
Though Camilla was the eldest child of 3 : often more confident abd talkative. Diana was youngest of 3 sisters, so maybe less so. Who knows??

It’s interesting that you should mention Diana being quiet.
Her sisters’ nickname for her was ‘Dutch’ (not ‘Duch’ ie Duchess as many think).
They likened her to ‘a Dutch doll’ because she was such a quiet girl.

(I had no idea there was such a thing as a Dutch doll)

A quiet girl, shy Di, who can age 24 get on stage of the Royal
Opera House and dance to Uptown Girl, this was the 80”s.

That's the easy bit, dancing on stage, with a bit of practise. You don't have to hold a meaningful conversation.
But she drew attention with her beauty.

Easy , before 2,500 people ?

Yes, even 25,000. When you perform you "forget" what anyone thinks in the moment. Easy.