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Wyllow3 Sat 05-Aug-23 21:50:29

For the support, understanding and sharing of mental health issues.

For newcomers, there are some people who post regularly, some occasionally, and some like to read. so some post will be "carrying on" discussions, but new sharing always welcome.

HowVeryDareYou2 Fri 22-Sept-23 10:10:53

SweetpeaSue Thanks, hope you have a better day today
Wyllow3 Thanks, hope you're looking after yourself alright

After spending all night on a trolley in A&E, SIL has now been transferred to a ward. Wonder how long before they discharge her back to that home again... Meanwhile, the half-sister of my Son1's 2 girls is missing - she didn't turn up for school on Wednesday, and nobody has seen or heard from her since. She's 15, and apparently with 2 other girls (who also haven't made contact with anyone). Don't some people have a lot of worries (not me). Hope ALL BDers manage to have a decent day x

nadateturbe Fri 22-Sept-23 12:04:57

Whiff your sister is very talented. I think craft work is very enjoyable and therapeutic.
Darkness is depressing. As soon as it got sunny yesterday I felt cheerful. But I don’t like too much heat. Interesting about how it affects your nephew. It must make life difficult, not sleeping well all that time. I’ve heard of lamps that help SAD, but I don’t think it’s quite the same as real sunshine. Did you ever think of living somewhere hot to help your pains?
HVDY Your poor SiL, it never ends, poor lady. She needs more careful nursing, I think. I really hope you don’t get Covid. You could well do without it. It’s definitely getting a hold again. I had debated whether to get the vaccine or not, as I’m afraid of side effects, but I’m pretty sure I will have it now. Glad you still have your day centre, your dessert sounded delicious. I love cheesecake, I made a chocolate one for Christmas years ago instead of Christmas pudding.
Scaredycat It’s so good to get some relief from the AF, any relief is very welcome, I’m sure. It’s very disturbing when your heart rhythm isn’t normal. I’m glad your husbands new meds are working, hopefully he will hear soon about the ultrasound. If the wait is very long, I do know that ultrasounds are not as expensive as scans. I had one recently and the appointment only cost £150. Private health is becoming widely used, unfortunately not everyone can afford it. and it's ridiculous having to pay after contributing tax all those years. I’m with Benenden, which has been really helpful.
Husband is suddenly feeling so much better. I am more awake, I took half a sleeping pill last two nights. I am determined to go out. We have been in so long, not meeting with people, that I’m actually anxious about doing it. My daughter last night was pushing me to say exactly when I’m going out, have I definite arrangements,etc, so I know she’s concerned.

Back later to talk to others.xx

HowVeryDareYou2 Fri 22-Sept-23 14:13:28

nadateturbe I'm pleased that your husband is feeling better. Haven't you been out for a while? Hope you manage to get out. It's pouring with rain here - all my washing is wet, as I pegged it out when it looked sunny this morning.

SIL has had a fall on the ward, so now they are "closely monitoring" her. The half-sister of my 2 GDs hasn't been seen for 2 1/2 days now, and police have finally mentioned it. She's with 2 friends, who also haven't been seen since early Wednesday morning.

nadateturbe Fri 22-Sept-23 16:32:15

That's very worrying HVDY. Just seen in a newspaper. I wonder did they sneak clothes out in their bags, and planned to go somewhere. I do hope and pray that's what has happened and they get in touch soon. I can't imagine how families are feeling.

nadateturbe Fri 22-Sept-23 16:45:51

Sweetpeasue my problems pale into insignificance when I hear yours. I do not know how you manage. You are definitely a strong woman to go out and walk with such pain. And yet I know what you mean about getting out of the four walls. I wonder would you think of a mobility scooter, there are some really trendy looking ones. I think if I eventually need one I wouldn't hesitate. Yes, you need to keep walking too. But it could give you more freedom.
Also if jeans don't fit over kneepad, , you could buy some joggers, there are really nice ones. I have some animal print ones from M&S, they're very roomy.
Your husband really needs urgently to clarify what grade his appointment request is. It doesn't appear to be what you were told.
Hope you are getting through the day OK.x

nadateturbe Fri 22-Sept-23 17:26:29

Good afternoon Doodle. Gosh that sounds bad having to crawl over to the toilet to get up. I just checked my garden kneeler and yes, it could be helpful. That's a great idea actually. But at least you have a nice clean bathroom.
I see you are on a diet. I hope you achieve your goal. It's really just a matter of eating less of the bad food. Although when one is stressed it's more difficult. (Chocolate is so comforting).
Is the nurse looking after your husbands leg now?
Hope you are still feeling a bit better today.

Husband felt a bit better so we went out for lunch at Harvey Norman's, bright and airy, nice food. He wanted to go. I told him I could go out alone, not to go if he wasn't up to it. But he insisted he was ok. Hardly spoke a word, looked round saying nothing, slept with the seat back on way home. I feel really sorry for him and I know it's selfish but I am finding it hard.. Missed last three art classes, have not had any other company for just over a week . I think I will leave him at home tomorrow and meet my bf. I need to just have a good chat with someone. I'm beginning to feel anxious about being with others. I don't want it to become a problem.

Hello Wyllow3 thinking of you as always. Also EllieAnne Whiff Candy and any others on BD. Hope you are OK.

Ellie Anne Fri 22-Sept-23 18:25:02

How worrying about those young girls. I hope they are found safe soon.
What difficult times you are all having. And your poor s in l Hvdy.
Wyllow I’m thinking of you and hoping you are getting the help you need
I managed a short walk this afternoon. Have been really lazy this week but haven’t felt great. Just a cold but a bad one.
Nothing compared to your problems.
I’m going to my friends tonight. I’m so grateful for friends.

Doodle Fri 22-Sept-23 19:23:02

HVDY sadly falls are something we hear about often for people in care homes. They just don’t have the staff to keep an eye on everyone. Your poor SIL. About time they started keeping a watchful eye on her. Falls are to be avoided at all costs.
Oh no. Have just read about your DGDs half sister. This is the poor girl who was being bullies at school isn’t it. How awful. I Hope the fact that a couple of others are missing means they are together and safe but how worrying. 15 is no age really. Her parents must be beside themselves. I Hope they’re found soon. Please let us know if she turns up.
I did a covid test today. All clear. Just got a tickly cough really.
nadateturbe DH has been invited for his Covid jab too, he’s having his Monday. DH is a big fan of cheesecake but he likes the New York one. I’m not so keen.
Oh don’t worry about me I often crawl to places to get up. I’ve been unable to get up from the floor under my own steam for a while now. I just need to be able to lean on something then I’m ok. Legs wide apart then gradually bring them together. My giraffe move I call it.
Yes DH is under the nurse until his leg heals, I think it’s a lot better. I’m afraid I’m a compulsive snacker. No so much sweet stuff buy savoury. I am trying hard to be good.
You are right to meet up with a friend. You DH sounds tired and you need company and someone to chat to. Hope you enjoyed your meal even without the conversation.
Ellie Anne like you I am worried about those girls. I worry about all children really. I hate to hear a child crying it really upsets me. I know they’re not all angels but even so it still makes me upset. Hope your cold gets better soon. Have a nice evening with your friend.

Scaredycat Fri 22-Sept-23 20:51:07

Nadateturbe- Good to hear your DH was feeling well enough to go out but such a shame it proves to be a bit too much for him. It’s certainly not selfish to find it hard- you have your own troubles to deal with and what helps you cope is seeing your friends,doing your Art etc. It will do you good to see your BF . I do understand your worry about feeling anxious being with other people. It has taken me ages to feel comfortable with people after Covid and the ADs have helped me cope with the churning tummy feeelings before going out.
Hope you have a good meet up with your friend.
Doodle - why is it so easy to get down to the ground and next to impossible to get up again without using something to haul on? I can’t get up without DH help if I get down to the bottom shelves in shops😩
I think that if it is affordable to pay for a private appointment is money well spent- especially as there are so many appts being cancelled.
So pleased you tested negative for Covid I was a bit worried it might have been that.
HVDY- your poor SiL - how much more can she take? I hope she hasn’t hurt herself too badly- she really needs to be watched carefully.She’s between a rock and a hard place between the Hospital and ‘Care’ Home.
I do hope the missing girls are found safe and well soon. There are so many unscrupulous and unkind people out there.
EllieAnne- have a nice evening with your friend- glad the cold has improved.
Wyllow- hope you are ok and have as peaceful a night as possible. Hug time.
We have our Covid/ flu jabs tomorrow- that’s 2 sore arms each!!
Today we visited our dear friends one of whom has Alzheimer’s- he was enjoying watching the birds in the garden- it was a joy to see him and he actually spoke a little which hardly happens. We felt so glad to have seen that.

SweetPeaSue,Candy,Whiff,Allsorts, Nanny and all wishing you restful sleep.x

HowVeryDareYou2 Fri 22-Sept-23 21:08:12

Quick update - the girls have been found at the nearest seaside resort, and are being brought back by police. (the police traced the mobile of one of the 3 girls). It seems they got the train there. Back later for a proper catch-up with you all x

Sweetpeasue Fri 22-Sept-23 21:08:16

EllieAnneSorry to hear you still have a bad cold. Hope you're not too conjested and can sleep ok. Olbas oil can be good on a tissue under edge of pillow. Have a nice chat with your friends.
HVDY How awful for the parents of those missing girls. Can't imagine what they are going through. The girls must be very upset and confused about something. Really hope they turn up safe and sound. Its so terribly sad about your SIL. You must feel for her and be so frustrated about the whole situation as you understand the degree of caring that's required. Sounds as if her sense of balance has gone or her legs are so weak. Glad she's being watched more closely now.
Nadateturbe I'm sorry youve not been able to get to your art classes. You sound in desperate need of company. I can really understand that nervousness about socialising with others after you've been in a while. I will try to get to my book group next week though know I' ll feel extremely awkward after not going for so long. I'm hoping I'll be able to drive with my knee next week as I cant expect DH to do 2 return journeys. I hope your DH feels better soon. I think a lot of men dont feel the need to talk about things. It can feel lonely at times and I think it does us good to just have a natter, even about everyday small stuff. I miss that in my everyday life as I'm quite introverted. I hope you have a lovely time with your good friend tomorrow. Oh I didn't mean to mislead. I dont think I'll be needing a mobility scooter just yet. I will use my DH's stick that he had after his hip replacement when it feels v bad Good news is GP arranged an appt with someone who has experience of muscularskeletal problems, think she might know exercises for my knee, though hoping it doesn't make things worse.
Doodle How are you and your DH? I'm glad the nurse is keeping an eye on his bad leg. Hope your wheezing is not as bad today. I love your description of your giraffe move. I think we have to laugh at ourselves as we get older. I panic a bit if I drop something like my bank card when in the supermarket. Trying to remember your post on prev page of my phone as I cant scroll back without losing my post. Ive rang and left a message with pain management Dr's secretary so hoping shell get back to me Monday.
Scaredycat Think your post on prev page too. Hope your AF is continueing to behave itself and youve been ok today.

DH got appt with head GP to sort things this morning. He told her that other GP(who wed never seen) got urgent appt and what had happened and he couldn't wait till February. He told her he'd like to start the Prednisolone treatment. She thought it reasonable as thinks the pain he had in fingers was most likely because of past hand ops. I'm hoping its nothing else but dont think she would agree to steroid treatment if she felt sure enough. He just cant wait 6 mths.
I feel brighter today. Sure ADs are helping and not had really bad pain today though still annoying at times. Just emptying bladder can set it off so I know its bladder pain. Still feel Urologist made a mistake calling it CPP but will just have to wait for PM clinic.

Hoping everyone is ok. Love to all BDs

Sweetpeasue Fri 22-Sept-23 21:17:32

Scaredycat Oh that was heartening that your friend with Alzheimer's wasn't distressed and had a lovely time in the garden. You must have felt better seeing him like that. We get our Flu jabs Sunday. DH never gets sore arm but I do. Oh you're having 2 each-ouch. 😑
HVDY Thankyou for letting us know they're safe. Police have been brilliant finding them.
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Doodle Fri 22-Sept-23 22:26:19

HVDY thank goodness they’re safe. Thanks for letting us know.
Scaredycat I have to be careful as I can’t really use DH to pull me up. His balance is so bad I might just pull him over too. What a pair we are. I did wonder about Covid but I’m not really feeling bad just got a dodgy throat. Nice your friend was enjoying some time in the garden. My brother used to like to watch the wildlife in the local park too. Nice to think even with Alzheimer’s you can get some pleasure out of life.
Sweetpeasue good to hear the ADs are helping a bit. Glad you got to see the GP with your DH. Hope the appointment gets sorted out properly. Hope the steroid treatment helps too.
Hope you have a better weekend.
Sleep well all.

Wyllow3 Fri 22-Sept-23 23:40:09

Lots of love and yes I do really catch up xx

HowVeryDareYou2 Sat 23-Sept-23 08:48:48

nadateturbe Nice that you went out, but it's a shame your husband isn't well. I hope you see you friend today. It will do you good to have a good old chat. I think a lot of men don't feel the need to talk much, and it can feel lonely (I'm the same with my husband, but I have friends to talk with)

EllieAnne Hope you soon feel better and that you can manage to find somewhere to go today. I know you don't like weekends much.

ScaredyCat It's nice to think that your friend is sometimes able to enjoy simple pleasures despite having Alzheimer's.

SweetpeaSue I hope the pain management people get in touch with you soon. Is your appointment in October? How's your husband today?

Doodle I struggle to get up, too. When we're out together, my husband and I are a right pair - I toddle, and he limps a bit because of Arthritis in his knee.

Wyllow Hope you're keeping warm and eating alright.

It's a bright and sunny morning here. Hope ALL BDers manage to have a decent day x

HowVeryDareYou2 Sat 23-Sept-23 11:22:12

Sister of my 2 GDs is a very troubled girl - things I can't say on here, but more than the usual teenage angst - so I hope she'll get some help/counselling or something now.

Brother has been to the "care" home and collected his wife's belongings. She won't be going back there (but she'll need residential or nursing care). Both her sister and I have written letters of complaint to the place, as well as informing CQC.

Hope everyone is ok today x

Sweetpeasue Sat 23-Sept-23 17:41:01

HVDY I find it very sad and so unfair that your SIL has not had adequate care at this stage of her life when she gave so much as a carer herself when working. (Hope I got that right, seem to remember you saying she worked with you as carers) Its good that her sister and yourself have sent in complaints as it will hopefully mean improvements made that others will benefit ny in future.
So pleased your GD's half sister has been found. I haven't heard back from Pain management's sec(left a message on Thursday). She was the one who told me I was being put under this other Dr (CPP) and my appt was in November, though Ive received no notification at all. I believe your own med appt is next month so do hope that wont be postponed because of strikes ect.

Didnt want to push DH this morning but haven't been able to take Aunt out for a couple of weeks due to our predicaments. He said he could manage to drive but knew he found it difficult. I think at age 89 my aunt is def physically better shape than us though it's awkward as her memory is so bad and she doesn't remember when people see her or visit. It was difficult today but she was so pleased to go for coffee and loves to. talk about when she was younger with my mum(she can never remember what day it is).
DH has had 2 dys of steroids so far. When I had Polymyalgia I noticed huge difference after a few dys so hoping he will too. So glad I went on ADs as I'm pretty sure I'd not have coped without them. I feel so different. They dont take away the worries about family and stuff but I am more able to think straight and not have the bad thoughts I was getting.

Hoping youve all had a decent day. Thinking of you Wyllow and how you are coping. X

Doodle Sat 23-Sept-23 20:06:21

HVdY I’m so pleased the girls have been found. I feel sorry for her because from what you’ve said her mum isn’t that great with her and unlike your grandchildren she doesn’t have you and your family as someone to turn to. So many children these days struggling on their own in a troubling world. It makes me feel very sad for them. Still at least she’s found.
DH and I are a right pair too. I have to hold onto him when we’re out so he doesn’t fall over, he has to hold onto me so I don’t get lost. I am still using my stepper. I have hopes that over a period of time it will improve the muscles in my knees and help me to get up more easily. Diet should help too except for tonight when I had an apple turnover with cream 😱
Glad your SIL will be going somewhere else. They obviously weren’t looking after her. So many elderly people go downhill after spending time in a care home.
Sweetpeasue hope you hear from that secretary soon. You need that appointment. Really nice of you both to make the effort for your aunt especially as she may well forget you visited. You are really kind to her.
Iam so pleased the ADs are helping you. They don’t stop worry but they do help to control things a bit better. I Hope the steroids help your DH too.
We’ve had a quiet day. Unfortunately, I think DH has got my cold. I will do a Covid test on him tomorrow as he’s due his Covid jab Monday. I’ve had a productive day. Cleaned the kitchen, done the ironing and another load of washing, a little knitting and tidying up my craft cupboard. Phew, I’m beginning to sound like I’ve had a HVDY day 🤣.
Hope all the rest of BD ok.

Sweetpeasue Sat 23-Sept-23 20:50:51

Doodle A HVDY day. 😂 Think you must have worked off that Apple Turnover after all that! Oh sorry your DH may have picked up your cold-it tends to be what happens. Hope its not too bad. We have our flu jabs tomorrow though DH read hes not meant to have vaccinations at the start of steroids so he will mention it to nurse.
Hope all BDs ok.

nadateturbe Sat 23-Sept-23 21:24:52

EllieAnne A short walk is fine if you’re not feeling great. Hope your cold is getting better, and that visiting your friend cheered you up a bit.
Doodle glad that it’s not Covid. I wonder can we still buy test kits. We have some left, it’ feels good being able to check. I don’t know what a New York cheesecake is.I’ve googled but I’m non the wiser.
It’s good that someone is looking after your husbands leg. Do they know what the problem is?
Scaredycat I hope you’re both feeling ok after your jabs, no bad side effects.
I agree, private appointments are worth paying for if you can, it lessens the waiting time and the worry. Just a shame having to do it. Shame on our government.
It was so nice that the man you visited was enjoying the birds and talked to you a little. Very touching. I’m sure you’re glad you went..
Sweetpeasue Thank you for your very understanding message. I was indeed desperately in need of company and chat. I visited my best friend and her husband today. They understood too, and could empathise a bit. She and her husband were glad of company too and wished we all lived closer. We laughed at some of the things to do with being older. It was really good. I think if I didn’t have M.E. we would see each other more. I too am an introvert, I prefer a couple of close friends and family. I think that’s why things like art or book clubs are good for company, and I hope you get to yours next week. I wouldn’t worry about not being for a while. It won’t matter to anyone, I often miss sessions. Fingers crossed that the person you are seeing can help with some exercises, it’s worth a try. But I hope you hear back from the clinic soon.
I didn’t think you were ready to give up walking. I just thought one to have in case you had a bad day would help. I honestly think some look very cool. Lots of people use them were I live, and many are younger with things like M.E. I think in the future you will see lots of older people whizzing around on them. it was just a thought. smile
It’s good that the Ads are helping you cope with everything. I’m sure your aunt appreciated you both making the effort. I hope the steroids work as well for your husband as they did for you. Good luck with your jabs tomorrow.
HVDY it’s nice weather here today too. I’m glad the young girl is back. I hope she gets help with whatever the problem is. It’s difficult enough being a teenager with out added problems. Thank you, I had a lovely afternoon. It seems I’m not alone with a husband who doesn’t chat much. It’s helpful to know that men can be like that. I must make more effort to see others, and not expect too much from him.
Where is your SiL now? The lack of proper care is deplorable.
grin Doodle Definitely an HVDY day! Hope DH is ok.

Sorry if I've missed anything. My energy is nearly used up. Love to everyone on BD. hope you have a peaceful night.xx

HowVeryDareYou2 Sat 23-Sept-23 22:48:28

SweetpeaSue My SIL and my brother both worked as carers, for about 6 years. At one point, we all worked for the same company. I did care work for about 20 years or so altogether, for various companies, most of it in people's own homes. I did work briefly in a couple of care homes and hated it. She's still in hospital, so I don't know how long she'll be there or where she'll end up. It's a shame, as she's only 70 but seems very much older. I hope your husband notices some benefits from the steroids soon. ADs don't get rid of any problems, but they allow us to cope better.

Doodle The girl's dad is useless, and told her 2 weeks ago he doesn't want to have any contact with her again. Nice eh. There are other things, too - allegations of things that the police have looked into. You have been busy! I haven't! I've been very lazy indeed today, then drank 1/2 a bottle of wine and had some Tiramisu after my dinner. I hope your husband soon feels ok and that it's just a cold.

nadateturbe Glad you saw your friend and chatted a lot. I love to talk. My sons do, too. My SIL is still in hospital, so I expect someone will make a decision soon to send her somewhere, as they'll need the bed.

Wyllow Hope you're taking care of yourself.

Hope ALL BDers have a restful night x

Wyllow3 Sat 23-Sept-23 23:02:28

Love and best wishes BD's its hard to speak out at all xx

nadateturbe Sun 24-Sept-23 15:46:40

Started feeling nauseous as I finished my last post. Wonderful night, being sick and feelingrotten. . Still in bed eating very little, ginger tea. Hope everyone is having a good Sunday.
HVDY I can't believe your SiL is only 70, and suffering like that. So young.
Back tomorrow maybe...

Scaredycat Sun 24-Sept-23 16:57:49

HVDY- so pleased to hear the girls have been found. Your GD sister sounds a troubled sad little person. How can a Dad say things like that to his daughter- no wonder she is confused and unhappy. Still at least she is safe and hopefully will get some help for her mental state.
What a good day you had yesterday - so nice to hear you had a chill out day. Wine and Tiramisu- oh that sounds perfect.
I ,m surprised that your SiL is only 70 - Alzheimer’s certainly takes a physical toll as well as mental. I hope a kinder home can be found for her- she deserves it after all her work for other
SweetPeaSue- it was so nice of you both to take your Aunt out- she must have been so pleased to see you.
Yes hope the steroids help your DH as they did you.
The ADs really do take the edge off things don’t they. I am so glad we both decided to take them- not a cure all but it’s wonderful to feel more like my old self- is that how you feel?
Hope you haven’t any after effects from the jabs today.
Doodle- Ah hope DH hasn’t got your cold- my SiL hasn’t caught Covid from my daughter though and she is still positive😩 Good idea to do a test before the jabs.
You definitely had a HVDY day yesterday- you needed that apple turnover😋
Nadateturbe- not feeling brilliant after the jabs - very sore arm but better than flu or Covid any day. That lovely afternoon with your friends did you so much good. Being with old friends with whom you have many shared memories is special .
I agree with the mobility scooter idea for when we are ready to use one. I wouldn’t hesitate as I would rather be outside with people than be miserable indoors. There is a younger man in our village who whizzes about on one- so good to see him retaining independence .
I,m sorry you are not feeling so good this morning. Hope the nausea wears off soon.
Ellie Anne- hope this weekend hasn’t been too bad. It’s nice and sunny here so went for a walk but felt perhaps I should have had a rest after the jabs- have you been out?
Wyllow- thinking of you and hoping you are seeing after yourself. Hugsxx

HowVeryDareYou2 Sun 24-Sept-23 17:18:46

nadateturbe What's brought that on, I wonder? A bug? Hope you feel better soon.

Scaredycat The mum isn't blameless, either. My SIL seems very much older (always has been like that), and several people (including those at the day centre, hospital and care home) thought she was my mum or mum-in-law! She's 6 years older than me! Hope you've had a good day today.

DH and I met up with Son1, his 2 girls, and his girlfriend (her son was with his dad) and went to a trampolining place, so the girls enjoyed that. Then we had a pub meal, went to son's girlfriend's house, picked up her lovely dog, and went for a walk with her - she's a gorgeous dog and very well-behaved. Got home just before it started raining. Hope all BDers have been ok today x

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