Nasty strain of Salmonella, resistant to antibiotics

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Germanshepherdsmum

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Agreed.

We buy meat for meals with our children, apart from jambon and pork, it's all locally sourced, organic - easy, we have lovely butchers. We're not asked to buy poultry, apart from eggs, also easy healthy source!

Easy peasy - support local farmers and buy UK produced meat.
I'd always rather buy in a farm shop or at my local butcher where the provenance of the meat is all open and above board.
Who wants imported pork lamb or beef when we produce such excellence ourselves?

Germanshepherdsmum

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Absolutely 👍

Buying British or even organic is no guarantee against food poisoning. Some of the food poisoning bacteria are endemic in herds of British cattle and other animals, as well as in other countries.

Being vegetarian and eating organic is probably more risky than eating meat as animal manures are often used as fertiliser.

These links are a bit old but I don't think the situation has changed.
www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-10743625/Organic-leafy-vegetables-harbouring-harmful-bacteria-salmonella-study-warns.html

www.iatp.org/news/poison-risk-is-greater-from-organic-foods-says-scientist

I used to teach microbiology in a 3rd level college and would often get students to sample food for bacteria. On one occasion raw salad from sandwich bar had more bacteria per gram than raw sausages!

Who would buy imported meat and eggs when we have such good products in England?

Poor people would, that's who.

Agreed, Farmor. I don't like to eat salad that isn't prepared by me or a trusted friend for that very reason.

I'm also a bit puzzled by the mention of salmonella being resistant to antibiotocs as I hadn't thought antibiotocs were the usual treatment for salmonella infections. I know anti-Bs can help in some cases but I thought they were not the standard treatment.

I was thinking the same as Caleo re why people buy cheaper meat.

Farmor, please can you recommend a small and brief guide to best way(within reason) to hygienically clean, and cook to sterilise, and preserve foodstuffs?

Imagine some nice organic fresh kale, Caleo. So long as it's not actually soily dirty, if you chop it a bit and chuck it in a wok containing hot fat, it'll be fine to eat when you've tossed it about a bit.

Heat kills most dangerous bacteria. That's why cooking chicken and pork thoroughly is stressed.

PS works with conventionally grown kale too.

I agree Baggs. However what is the way to clean a large white cabbage with fifty to a hunderd closely folded leaves?

1, chop it all up and put it in large colander under running water for a) two minutes b) four minutes, stirring.

Then boil to sterilise?

or

Remove and discard how many ? outer leaves, chop, and braise the remainder??

or 2, Throw away how many ? of the outer leaves and hot oven to braise the socially clean remainder?

Iceberg lettuce ? Raspberries?

Packaged food that has been handled often until the shop finally sells it: to wipe the outside of the package? I need that book!

Caleo

Who would buy imported meat and eggs when we have such good products in England?

Poor people would, that's who.

Indeed. Such smug comments from some. With inflation as it is, and so many people unable to make ends meet, choosing expensive chicken from the local farm is just not an option. And most people live in towns where this is not available.

And even for those with less money worries, how do they check the provenance of their chicken in restaurants or take-away meals, etc.

Fact is, it is a miracle there has not been a massive outbreak of some nasty animal disease, as meat and other produce are coming in totally unchecked currently.

Germanshepherdsmum

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RosiesMaw

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How rude, and who cares?

British meat factory in Dispatches, Bernard Matthews- how safe?

fb.watch/oTe74F7i7W/

Oh I care Fleurpepper

It is considered very rude however, and totally against netiquette. The Welcome Committee, ah!

But, back to the meat, and salmonella. And tons of food getting into the foodchain as there are NO checks whatsoever or produce coming into the UK currently.

Yes, I do care, about that.

Many of us have the choice to buy quality meat at our local butcher's. But what about patients in hospital, our grandchildren at school? And the vast majority who just don't have the choice to vuy cheaper without asking questions about provenance.

Is this a Brexit whine by any chance?

Aveline

Is this a Brexit whine by any chance?

Now if there were any question marks over that import I might start worrying! 🍷

Aveline

Is this a Brexit whine by any chance?

Mmmm, 🤷‍♀️ let me think.

Aveline

Is this a Brexit whine by any chance?

😲
Is there salmonella in imported whine? 🍷
Sorry, typo - wine!

Generally individuals with Salmonella do not require treatment. They usually only need to take care to drink plenty of water or other clear fluids. Some people find that low fat natural yoghurts and probiotic products (ones that contain small amounts of bacteria) can help to get the bowels back to normal

Thoroughly cook food
Heating food to 70°C for at least 2 minutes destroys Salmonella. Ensure all meat (especially poultry) is thoroughly cooked. Insist when eating out that food meant to be warm is served ‘piping’ hot.

NHS

Seems it not just the uk.

www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/multi-country-outbreak-salmonella-senftenberg-st14-infections#:~:text=Since%20August%202022%20and%20as,the%20United%20States%20(2).
So who is doing the inspections in France, Germany, Austria etc.