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Kaolin and morph

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ExDancer Sun 24-Nov-24 12:13:11

Do you remember it? It was grandad's favourite 'go-to' for any kind of tummy upset, but you can't buy it over the counter at the chemist's any more (because of the 'morph' I expect). Our lovely independent chemist used to make it up himself.
DH felt a bit bilious last night, I'd been lazy and opened a tin of Frey Bentos steak pie, and admit the pastry was a bit soggy underneath.
And I remembered the days when I'd have had a bottle of K&M in the bathroom - but all I had was milk of magnesia. It stopped him feeling sick but he still had stomach cramps.
What is the modern substitute?
Is there one?

Witzend Sun 24-Nov-24 12:17:10

I remember it, ditto Dr Collins Browne’s Compound - a few drops in a glass of water soon got rid of stomach cramps. But of course that’s no longer available either, since it contained morphine.
There’s something you can buy, called Buscopan (IIRC) which is supposed to ease stomach cramps.

Nano14 Sun 24-Nov-24 12:24:40

You can still buy it. Care+ do it. I'm not sure about over the counter, but some online reputable, independent chemists sell it.

Sparklefizz Sun 24-Nov-24 12:30:19

When I was a Saturday girl working in a chemist's, we had a lady who came in frequently for Dr Collis Browne's Compound. She was addicted to it and the pharmacist told us all that we were not to serve her.

downtoearth Sun 24-Nov-24 15:28:04

As part of my training as a dispenser many years ago I used to make up the big bottles of stock mixtures, labels all written in Latin, koalin and morphine being one if them.
The recipes for these where in the Britush National Formulary.

We had our share of customers addicted not only Collis Brown Chlorodyne, but opoid cough linctus as well.

Oreo Sun 24-Nov-24 15:42:59

Kaolin and Morphine was my Dad’s go to for any nausea or as he called it a ‘bilious attack’.

keepingquiet Sun 24-Nov-24 15:57:20

Takes me back to when it was a stock medicine on the ward and often given as part of the drug round!

Caused constipation though, so we gave out the good old senakot too!

Grunty Sun 24-Nov-24 16:04:24

Another over the counter remedy for stomach pain, particularly period pain, was Bay Rum. I don't think that there was actually any rum in it but it was very warming and soothing.

grannysyb Sun 24-Nov-24 16:14:18

When DH wnt to see the GP about stomach problems, he told him that he had take Kaolin and Morphine, GP had never heard of it!

Oldbat1 Sun 24-Nov-24 16:46:46

My mil gave me a dose of Collis Brownes once and I can still remember the warm feeling it gave me in my stomach. Anyway it did the trick!

HelterSkelter1 Sun 24-Nov-24 19:33:38

Take care with Buscopan. Not good for anyone with raised eye pressure/glaucoma.
Kaolin and Morph was wonderful. We always had it at home in the 50s and 60s.

Cold Sun 24-Nov-24 21:30:08

My granny used to give me Andrew's Liver salts for a bilious attack - a tin of powder that fizzed when stirred into water. I expect it was mostly bicarb.

Cold Sun 24-Nov-24 22:16:48

I expect it is harder to get hold of these days because of it containing opiates.

Not available at all where I live (not UK) and if it was it would require a narcotics prescription.

Most people take Gaviscon or Rennie these days

Louella12 Sun 24-Nov-24 22:38:01

Oh kaolin and morphine. That was fabulous stuff. However when I used to ask for it, I'd get an odd look, then they'd go under the counter and stuff it into a paper bag. I used to feel as if I was engaging in some illegal activity.

Not had any for years now. It used to work a treat.

pinkprincess Sun 24-Nov-24 23:15:08

Anyone remember Gripe Water given to babies to relieve wind pains?
I remember my mother using it regularly with my younger siblings.It smelled lovely because it contained Gin!
My mother would also rub our gums with Whisky for teething pains

petal53 Sun 24-Nov-24 23:46:55

We had kaolin and morphine at home. It was used for an attack of diarrhoea. It worked too.

Esmay Mon 25-Nov-24 08:08:53

If nauseous I recommend some freshly made ginger tea .
I grate a peeled piece which is about the size of my thumb nail.
Measure a cupful of hot water , add and heat for one minute in the microwave.
Allow to infuse for a couple of minutes and strain .
Sip .
And you will burp !
And how !
I have never known it to fail .
Avoid meat pies when feeling queasy-they are far too rich .
I used to take Collis Brown for period pain .
I can't remember when it was withdrawn-a long time ago .
Kaolin and morphine was great ,but withdrawn years ago
Buscopan is OK, but doesn't stop severe cramps.
Paracetamol and codeine will stop diarrhoea .

poppysmum Mon 25-Nov-24 08:27:11

buscopan is ok but isnt instant
kaolin and morphine was wonderful always had it at home
remember at school they gave us milk of magnesia teacher told us if they werent ill it would give them the runs so stop people asking twice just to get out of lessons like pe

Visgir1 Mon 25-Nov-24 08:51:05

K&M was taken off the market years ago, I'm assuming small dose of Morphine would be still be a class A drug? However you can still buy in some Pharmacy's abroad.
I was sold some in Mexico when I was ill and flying home that day, worked a treat, knocked me out so I managed to get home OK.

Farzanah Mon 25-Nov-24 10:06:16

Gee’s Linctus was my go to for persistent coughs. Really worked, but opiates again!

Farzanah Mon 25-Nov-24 10:08:17

As to K&M the kaolin used to sink to the bottom so I suppose you could suck off the morph with a straw if you were so minded 😵

Grantanow Mon 25-Nov-24 10:39:50

K&M was and is excellent for gut ache. I was prescribed it for bad gut pain. It's no longer on the High Street because of the druggies.

SueDoku Mon 25-Nov-24 12:45:15

As the principal ingredients of chlorydne were a mixture of laudanum (an alcoholic solution of opium), tincture of cannabis and chloroform, it readily lived up to its claims of relieving pain, as a sedative, and for the treatment of diarrhea. It really worked, and was so, so comforting - looking back, giving it to young children was...!! 😱

bobbydog24 Mon 25-Nov-24 13:39:38

We were always given Indian Brandee for wind or cramps. Don’t think they sell it now. Milk of magnesia for upset tummy.

cc Mon 25-Nov-24 14:39:13

I found some online: www.chemist-4-u.com/care-kaolin-mixture-200ml