Covid vaccine for under 75

Please can one of the contributors who call the covid jab “gene therapy “ explain what they mean. Thank you

Can we just keep on vaccinating and boosting though?

I think it's a terrible shame that we can't have it. I had Covid really badly and I never never want it again.

Apparently pharmacists and their workers have been on the receiving end of a lot of abuse from people under 75 who really need this vaccination.

Another example of a short sighted government.

I felt cross as tho only 73 I had major surgery and life threatening sepsis and asthmatic and diabetic and actually given an appointment for flu and covid jab on the 14 th October . I got there and declined the covid jab as too young. Why give me am app tent then ? Apparently the rules suddenly changed .

GoldenAge it is not a gene therapy. It's an mRNA vaccine that uses mRNA to instruct your own cells ribosomes to produce antigen proteins. Stop spreading misinformation please.

@Goldenage I'd be interested in your figures - the 'large number of people'? I have found this paper which suggests globally, from the literature that 55 people died after the covid vaccine, not all can be directly attributed to the covid vaccine, and their conclusion is "Given the small number of severe adverse reactions and deaths reported, it is beyond doubt that the benefits of vaccination outweigh the risks. "
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8875435/

Apparently we've all been exposed to it now, either from infection or from a jab, and in most people it's just like a normal cold as our immune systems are no longer naive to it.

PaynesGrey

IOMGran

QuotePaynesGrey the actual cost of the vaccine to the NHS is £25. I looked it up.

You are not quoting me as I didn't say that. I have no idea what the vaccine costs and neither did the JCVI when they gave their advice - which they make clear in the paper I linked to.

If you know the cost of the vaccine then please provide your source.

There you go. That's what we're worth.
www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2024.11.08.24316972v3

Those who are panicking about not getting a free covid shot - how many of you have had covid several tines AND been vaccinated? It appears that those who’ve had multiple boosters are the ones catching it.
How many of you are reading alternative reports of the awful and sometimes life changing damage these shots have caused - first hand personal experiences of those badly affected?
The heart conditions: Myocarditis, Strokes, turbo cancer diagnosis. I know of 4 people affected. Here’s a snippet of the mass of information out there for those interested. For those who dont take the freebie, you may have done yourself a favour.

x.com/abridgen/status/1974878487535341978?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

x.com/jacquideevoy1/status/1974376197762248982?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

x.com/liz_churchill10/status/1906175096361750853?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

x.com/draseemmalhotra/status/1866485957618217280?s=46&t=lp3hCfirSI0YcmZzXIBZIA

ReadyMeals

Apparently we've all been exposed to it now, either from infection or from a jab, and in most people it's just like a normal cold as our immune systems are no longer naive to it.

It's a SARs virus, it's nothing like a rhinovirus. It's also constantly mutating, so our immunity doesn't last. It's been 5 years now and people fail to understand the basics.

Robin202 I have zero interest in anything those cranks have to say. I prefer peer reviewed medical papers thanks, not washed yup politicians and hacks.

You can pay and get the vaccine, Boots and other chemists offer them,🤧😷

One thing I find odd is that those of us who are younger and therefore likely to be at less risk, still get the flu vaccine. I am asthmatic so have been offered the flu jab since my 50s, but have not flu since my teens. It is usually the very elderly frail and immuno-compromised at risk from flu.

As an over 70 year old asthmatic, I was quite unwell from covid last year and have no wish to feel worse than that this year, but I am not eligible.

Having had covid 6 times now I'm unhappy that I can't have the vaccine this year having had every vaccine I was offered over the years. I suspect my immune system is weakened but I don't fit any of the listed categories. During the pandemic my employer refused to let me volunteer to work with key workers' children in school as they considered me vulnerable. I was close to retirement and diabetic. I felt unhappy that my colleagues were allowed to work on a rota but they said I couldn't.
I spent Christmas alone last year as I caught covid the week before and could not travel to stay with family as planned. I just hope it won't happen again this year. I can't afford to pay for the vaccine privately.

I am 84 years of age have had the covid injection and the flu injection, reside in Wales. All my chums from aged 70 have been invited for the jab
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IOMGran

ReadyMeals

Apparently we've all been exposed to it now, either from infection or from a jab, and in most people it's just like a normal cold as our immune systems are no longer naive to it.

It's a SARs virus, it's nothing like a rhinovirus. It's also constantly mutating, so our immunity doesn't last. It's been 5 years now and people fail to understand the basics.

But can we just keep on and on putting something in there to keep it at bay?
Or is it some sort of mind games? (I don't mean crazy conspiracy theories)

Stripey, as I said it is constantly mutating, that means it's a slightly different virus, hence the need for evolving vaccines to match it. Some viruses like measles are pretty stable and don't change much over time. Influenza and SARS are highly mutatable, se we approach them differently. I really don't understand your reference to mind games. This is just science and biology.

Husband and I are both 65 and have always qualified for the booster ( both disabled , both blue badge , both pip etc )
This year we don't quality inspite of being in the band that was told by the government / Drs surgery to isolate and even received food parcels .
We both decided to pay for private covid jabs at a cost of 2 x £80 when we had our flu ones .

Some more facts:

The number of Covid hospital admissions in the first half of the year was tiny, fewer than 10 admissions per 1 million population with fewer than 2 deaths per million.

Peak number of cases reported was in April with 1331 cases.

Overall COVID-19 case rates and positivity were highest among those aged 85 and over.

By the end of the COVID-19 spring 2025 vaccination campaign …

• only 58.1% of all people aged 75 to 79,
• only 61.8% of all people aged 80 and over, and
• only 24.5% of all people aged under 65 years and in a clinical risk group,

… who are resident in England had been vaccinated with a spring 2025 booster dose.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/epidemiology-of-covid-19-in-england/epidemiology-of-covid-19-in-england-january-to-june-2025

So there are around 40% of people aged over 74 not bothering to be vaccinated.

Around 10,000 people die each week in England & Wales - 600,000 a year.

Latest dashboard figures show only 100 deaths (week to 3 October) where Covid was mentioned on the death certificate - which only means the infection was present but not necessarily the prime cause of death.

ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/respiratory-viruses/covid-19

IOMGran

Stripey, as I said it is constantly mutating, that means it's a slightly different virus, hence the need for evolving vaccines to match it. Some viruses like measles are pretty stable and don't change much over time. Influenza and SARS are highly mutatable, se we approach them differently. I really don't understand your reference to mind games. This is just science and biology.

Absolutely not trying to be awkward. I just don't see how boosting and boosting and so on helps.

I had 2 and will leave it at that.

I've been deleting a lot from my phone and it brings back memories of the absolute madness of that time.

My husband has been quite ill with raised temperature, and the coughing !!!!!

My husband and I (73 & 68) have both been given appointments for flu and covid vaccine next week. Maybe it depends on area, we are Midlands? We did not ask but had request ftom our Dr practice to book asap.🤔

Nice to read a sensible counter argument. I had two Covid jabs as thought it was my civic duty. They caused me problems but thankfully I am still here. I am eligible for the jab but will definitely not risk it.

I now live in Ireland, here its over 60s free .
We are seen as more vulnerable

PaynesGrey you might find this an interesting read.

christinapagel.substack.com/p/england-is-now-experiencing-a-significant