Covid vaccine for under 75

Yes, I think they have too…

MadeinYorkshire You use well-known conspiracy theorists as your sources and then, like all good conspiracy theorists, tell people "to do their research", which is a well-known ploy (well-used by flat earthers). In September 2023, Aseem Malhotra received the Rusty Razor Award, a prize given to "the year's worst promoters of pseudoscience".

The way social media's algorithm's are manipulated, Google will produce the pseudo-claims by the people you mention at the the top of the search list. People read the stuff and most never go any further to read the genuine research.

The sources you quote aren't in the slightest bit credible.

I expect most people know somebody "who died suddenly from a heart attack or similar or have suddenly been diagnosed with cancer that kills them over a short time". People have been dying suddenly and unexpectedly since the beginning of time - nothing at all to do with any vaccines. There have been a miniscule number of cases where the Covid vaccines have been linked with death. Those cases are themselves a tiny number in the ratio of deaths by vaccine:deaths from Covid infection.

I'd like to think more research is being done on the effects of mRNA vaccines on patients who take protein inhibitors and similar drugs.

Allira

I'd like to think more research is being done on the effects of mRNA vaccines on patients who take protein inhibitors and similar drugs.

Interesting. Do you have any particular reason for that?

Yes. I'd like to know if the mRNA vaccines might help or inhibit the effects of such medications or makes no difference to the efficacy of either.

Glad someone said that.

The new variant should have changed the criteria back to over 65 or at least to 70,as its much easier to catch and could be more dangerous for older people.

I am £90.00 poorer, have just paid for a Covid vaccine, I am lucky that I can afford to pay but feel for those who can't.

nanaK54

I am £90.00 poorer, have just paid for a Covid vaccine, I am lucky that I can afford to pay but feel for those who can't.

I feel for them too.
My DH qualifies for the jab but at 68 nearly 69 and his full time carer I have to pay for the jab which I am doing in a few days time.
However £90 is a lot of money for those on a tight budget, and I imagine will be another decision like ‘heat or eat’. People will have to sacrifice essentials in order to pay for the jab or not have it all, and I fear many will probs choose the latter.

This discussion is very interesting. I believe gransneters should go on X (Twitter) on the involved politicians accounts, the BMA website and their MPs accounts to be heard. People who know more about the decision making bodies could advise us about their twitter accounts. Shingles, cervical cancer tests all are very strangely administered for different ages.

I use X, but there are other ways of communication of course.

My sister is years younger than me but in very poor health. She is so afraid of catching Covid. I am over 80 so can have the jab but don’t care whether I have it or not.
I wish I could give mine to her. If she went and gave my name and got mine, would that be illegal or wrong in any way?

Had my private covid jab yesterday as I no longer qualify for a free one . Cost £86 but rather pay it than not have the jab . I have a rare hereditary neurological condition plus a heart condition. Had covid last year for the first time but think I had mild symptoms because of all the ones I have had since covid jabs became available. The list of those who can have a free covid jab is shorter but it many people won't be able to pay for the jab . In some parts of the country it's £100+.

It really makes me angry this government send millions of £s abroad to countries to buy weapons to kill people but not let those who have qualified in the past for free covid which can save them from being very ill or even die . Think the idea is to kill people off before they can claim state pension. I know that's sounds extreme. My sister in law chad MS ,my brother heart condition they will have to pay and the only reason her dad can get it free is because he is 93. He has COPD but if he was below 75 he would also have to pay as it's not on the list.

Allira

Yes. I'd like to know if the mRNA vaccines might help or inhibit the effects of such medications or makes no difference to the efficacy of either.

I assume you have a personal interest in those particular drugs (and the conditions which they treat). I was wondering whether there was any reason why research should be prioritised for interactions with one particular group of drugs.

watermeadow

My sister is years younger than me but in very poor health. She is so afraid of catching Covid. I am over 80 so can have the jab but don’t care whether I have it or not.
I wish I could give mine to her. If she went and gave my name and got mine, would that be illegal or wrong in any way?

Yes.

Lynette55

I’ve been offered one at 69. Wild horses wouldn’t drag me to get one. Nor the flu jab. When I regularly had flu jab I had asthma and every cold going. My immune system now works properly and I’m not messing with it.

I think my doctors surgery has finally got the message - though I had to repeat tell them 3 or 4 times - after my initial telling them some time back "Do NOT ever ever contact me to offer any jabs" - but I still had to tell them that 3 or 4 times. Though one of them was one of those "nudges" - ie a letter saying "We've made an appointment for a flu jab for you at x time/place. By the way - whilst you're there - you may like to have a Covid jab too". Cue for another phonecall saying "I SAID.....".

I've had precisely one injection since I was about 7 - a tetanus one for careless injury on rusty metal by a former friend (former because she should have been more careful basically and then should have offered help to deal with it). I rather regret having that one even....

I'm rather glad, in hindsight, that a doctor all that way back in my 30's misdiagnosed a health problem (fact duly confirmed by the doctor I promptly swopped to at that point) - as it has made me think twice ever since about things....

So I don't even know/care what agegroup I'm deemed to be in from this pov - as I won't be having it ever anyway.

At last someone with some sense, I'm 68 and wouldn't have a covid or flu.

CariadAgain

Lynette55

I’ve been offered one at 69. Wild horses wouldn’t drag me to get one. Nor the flu jab. When I regularly had flu jab I had asthma and every cold going. My immune system now works properly and I’m not messing with it.

I think my doctors surgery has finally got the message - though I had to repeat tell them 3 or 4 times - after my initial telling them some time back "Do NOT ever ever contact me to offer any jabs" - but I still had to tell them that 3 or 4 times. Though one of them was one of those "nudges" - ie a letter saying "We've made an appointment for a flu jab for you at x time/place. By the way - whilst you're there - you may like to have a Covid jab too". Cue for another phonecall saying "I SAID.....".

I've had precisely one injection since I was about 7 - a tetanus one for careless injury on rusty metal by a former friend (former because she should have been more careful basically and then should have offered help to deal with it). I rather regret having that one even....

I'm rather glad, in hindsight, that a doctor all that way back in my 30's misdiagnosed a health problem (fact duly confirmed by the doctor I promptly swopped to at that point) - as it has made me think twice ever since about things....

So I don't even know/care what agegroup I'm deemed to be in from this pov - as I won't be having it ever anyway.

It has to go on your record that you were offered a jab and refused it. I know someone who caught pneumonia in hospital and died of it. Her daughter ( who was a friend of mine) was furious that she hadn’t been vaccinated for it but it was pointed out to her that it was on record that it had been offered but refused.

Babs03

Is this in the UK Cressy?
Only over 75 year olds can have the jab here unless immunosuppressed or working in a care home.

Babs03

Sorry this is the shingles vaccination!

Maybee - which does make it surprising that they tried again and again etc.

I was very clear it was to go on my records at the outset. I wasnt sure whether to put those unwanted offers down to "British inefficiency" or what....

I've had cause - in another context - to know that "British inefficiency" is sometimes a deliberate tactic ("Oh whoops - we lost your file". To which my reply was "I knew you would - and so I made a copy of it").

Whiff

Had my private covid jab yesterday as I no longer qualify for a free one . Cost £86 but rather pay it than not have the jab . I have a rare hereditary neurological condition plus a heart condition. Had covid last year for the first time but think I had mild symptoms because of all the ones I have had since covid jabs became available. The list of those who can have a free covid jab is shorter but it many people won't be able to pay for the jab . In some parts of the country it's £100+.

It really makes me angry this government send millions of £s abroad to countries to buy weapons to kill people but not let those who have qualified in the past for free covid which can save them from being very ill or even die . Think the idea is to kill people off before they can claim state pension. I know that's sounds extreme. My sister in law chad MS ,my brother heart condition they will have to pay and the only reason her dad can get it free is because he is 93. He has COPD but if he was below 75 he would also have to pay as it's not on the list.

I agree Whiff is totally unfair and makes no sense whatsoever. The NHS won’t save money because many of the vulnerable people who couldn’t get the jab will end up overwhelming hospitals this winter when they get covid and it causes complications due to other health issues.
Am hopping mad about this. Not all people over 75 are vulnerable. There are very many aged 60/65 and over who are yet are don’t qualify.
I also care full time for my DH who is unable to look after himself, am nearly 69 and also have health issues, if I don’t pay for the jab and get covid severely I won’t be able to look after my DH but full time carers don’t qualify unless working in a care home.
So I have time pay.