Bottom shelf of the fridge

soon, I think soutra's point is that most of us knew most of this anyway so don't really need to change what we do. Unless your family come down with stomach bugs on an alarmingly regular basis you are probably getting it right already as well.

Anyway, please can we stop talking about fridges and bacteria, mine needs and good clean and it won't be getting one until at least January.

Ana, if I may say so, that's a flipping gecko waste of good wine! Feeding it to bacteria indeed.

I only leave them half an inch or so, kitty, just to keep them docile...

"flipping gecko"

^ if a thread is started by me you can skip it. Now and forever^

free world? everyone's entitled to their opinion ?

Ah but the addition of a means it's all OK

If you want to contribute that is fine. Not sure what else to say to make it better.

"Thank ee kindly"<tugs forelock>

Cleaned mine today , nuff said about what I found......but no green/ purple long-legged (or legless) life forms, just a rather disgusting piece of ex-cucumber (I think.....) hiding at the back

A consultant once said to me that I had more bacteria inside me than I would ever find in his ward.
I thought, I'll be the judge of that.

Mine needs cleaning out before plonking the Christmas food in it. Another day, another job.

Apparently the number of bacteria living within the body of the average healthy adult human are estimated to outnumber human cells 10 to 1.

I hope you're not reading this, soontobe!

Thay are mostly useful bacteria, mind, not the ones that make meat smell or give us infections. Without the bacteria in our gut, we would not be able to digest our food. Different bacteria can be make us ill or protect us against illness.

https://www.med.unc.edu/microbiome/endeavors_UNC-Chapel-Hill_winter2011_bacteria_in_your_body%20-2.pdf

Looks interesting Elegran. But I think I will leave that lot of reading for tomorrow.

We seem to be awash with bacteria Ana!

Seems rosequartz's consultant was right!

I often think that us humans are very perculiar. We dont know how we are made, by a very long way. We couldnt make a human if we tried.

The UK has laws about making people, but someone did make a sheep (Dolly). However, that was cloning, which is difficult enough but not "cooking from scratch". I'm not sure that any scientist has yet been able to make something as simple as an amoeba (a unicellular organism) from scratch, i.e. just the requisite chemicals. Humans are no more "peculiar" than any other living thing on this planet, just a bit more complex. Of course, all grans everywhere, including on Gransnet have, by definition, been part of a team that made a human being.

As Carl Sagan used to say, we're all made of star dust.

Like the rest of the universe and everything in it with, on our planet, evolutionary natural selection thrown in where living things are concerned.

Physicists still don't know for certain how it all started. That's what they're trying to find out.

Re your bottom shelf, soon, if you put your meat in a leakproof dish (pyrex, for instance) you can put it anywhere in your fridge because the blood won't leak onto anything else. It's the same principle as putting liquids in jugs to contain them, like milk.

re your last paragraph.
I had never thought of that.
I get just about all my meat from the local butcher, so it doesnt come neatly packaged. But yes, with the smaller stuff, I could use a leakproof dish and put it anywhere.

That "lightbulb moment"?

I have written so much recently. Did I put "the lightbulb moment" about something on this thread, or another one?

Good advice from bags above. But just make sure that when you've taken your meat out of the butcher's wrapping and transferred it your Pyrex dish, make sure you're quite sober and not wearing silly shoes. This is to ensure that your hands don't wobble when you take the dish out and inadvertently spill some blood on to your cooked ham or Apple tart or whatever.

ha!

MiceElf. - speaking from experience????

Oh Soutra how could you suggest such a thing? I always wear sensible shoes and never imbibe more than I should. My downfall was puss weaving her way round my feet when I was putting away the shopping. Result: one bloodied tiramisu which had be disposed of.

While we're on the subject does anybody have constructive suggestions for keeping the floor of your oven clean? It must be harbouring all sorts of bacteria even allowing for cooking temperatures as it gets splashes and drips of goodness knows what.

If you're serious, Soutra, there are many like these on the market!

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