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Neighbours from Hell

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Swolleneyes Mon 25-Jun-18 11:16:46

Hello ever9..some advice needed please.
We recently moved into a lovely HA home but are now being targeted with harressment because I park opposite our property rather than along side our hedge. The road is unodopted and there are no parking restrictions whatsoever. I am not blocking anyone's access or making it difficult for vehicles to pass. I park with the flow of traffic...but we are constantly being intimidated to try and force me to park the "way we want you to". Help and advice needed..

Swolleneyes Mon 25-Jun-18 23:37:26

Thankyou MOnica..we will keep persevering and do everything completely within the law..It is such a shame that someone has taken it upon themselves to behave in this truely awful manner..I do belive in Karma and lets hope it decides to work quickly in this case..I will keep you all up to speed as to when he finally charged with this terrible hate crime..

Synonymous Tue 26-Jun-18 00:01:38

Oh Swolleneyes that is terrible and I really hope the Police can do something about that man. I hope that man with the black eye can be persuaded to join forces with you in an official complaint. Now that we have a bigger picture it is clearly nothing you have or have not done at all. I am not familiar with these things but if it is a tenanted property can't the landlord do something to evict him out since he is violent and abusive?

Swolleneyes Tue 26-Jun-18 10:12:30

I don't think so..Where we live there a very few HA homes as every property is now privately owned so we are in the minority..He keeps using this fact as ammunition.."We're gonna get you thrown out of there"..So meeting today with our HA and hopefully some sound advice..

Elegran Tue 26-Jun-18 10:17:30

Each time you post, you add something else to the crimes of this man and your own troubles. It is like a snowball.

You say that if you parked on your side of the road "I would be parking almost in the middle of the road as our hedge sticks out at least an extra metre from the fencing others have." There has been a thread on Gransnet very recently about wide hedges - maybe you have read it?

It sounds to me as though even if you "keep it neatly trimmed" it has spread a long way out - the road is a metre narrower at your house than it is at any of your neighbours. That can't be a good thing, either for cars or for anyone walking along the side of the road. Have you considered that perhaps you are not such a perfect neighbour yourself?

If you cut the hedge back to the same level as the fences, you could park outside your own gate, stop all this aggro and not have to keep crossing the road. Plus you would earn yourself some good points with all the neighbours.

Shazmo24 Tue 26-Jun-18 10:23:50

For goodness sake just cut back the hedge and park where you should be! It's not wirth falling out with yoyr new neighbours about

lollee Tue 26-Jun-18 10:27:52

You shouls have told the whole story in op then it would have been better understood. I suspected something not right as soon as you said he parked two old cars there, which seemed stupid and worse than your one being there. I always think these neighbours from hell have some sort of mental issues going on, lead such a lonely boring life and strife with neighbours is better than no interaction at all. Shame he cannot see it is better to be nice and be a respected member of his community. One wonders why the old guy did not report him for the bruised eye.

grannytotwins Tue 26-Jun-18 10:30:39

Speak to the HA about the hedge. If you lived in an adopted road you would be forced by law to cut it back to the same level as the other properties. It sounds as if, even though you trim it, it is a nuisance overhanging by a metre. Perhaps the HA will allow it to be taken out and a new fence installed. As for the neighbour, just do as the police say and log everything. I’ve had the neighbours from hell, so I sympathise. We moved house and realise how stressful it was now we have good neighbours.

inishowen Tue 26-Jun-18 10:54:46

First you need to cut your hedge back. When we moved to our house the hedge had grown halfway across the pavement. We were told on no uncertain terms to cut it. We did so, as we could see the problem. Once it's cut you should park where you're meant to. Why are you winding up your neighbours?

Pebbles77 Tue 26-Jun-18 10:55:18

Try to ride it and if it gets too bad stand your ground and ifnthat fails do what my husband would do ....( no i don’t condone what he and his family would do lol ) tell them in no uncertain terms to ...whatsname OFF
Honestly that is sometimes the only way to do it ..... people will start on people when new ... pathetic cretins ..

Pebbles77 Tue 26-Jun-18 10:56:28

Awww jist say to them .. my bush is my buisness ... that will ruffle the feathers
Lol

NemosMum Tue 26-Jun-18 11:06:17

So sorry to hear of your plight swollen. Hope the police can help. We had a very mild version of this at our last house, but the difference was that the neighbour had right of access over our property. He kept parking farm machinery on it and damaging our wall, fence & garden. My OH had early dementia and was not able to deal with it when I was not in. It was awful! Eventually, I and another neighbour, read him the Riot Act, which worked to an extent. I have to say that we think this man also had dementia.

Pearlsaminger Tue 26-Jun-18 11:40:57

I’m going through the same thing Swolleneyes, neighbours moaning because I parked outside their house. No parking restrictions at all. I have a Disability and can’t walk far and parked there as his friends had parked outside my house.

I know it is not my bay and I’m happy for anyone to park there. But I need to park somewhere.

I’ve had notes taped to my car with brown tape, causing damage. My daughters had notes attached to her car too. We’ve been accosted in the steeet, intimidated and threatened. I’ve had his family banging on my door gone 11pm, screaming that it’s their space and that I’m causing a problem. I learnt to say nothing but keep walking while they’re screaming obscenities at me and my daughter.

Sadly, i am very stubborn and will not be put off by them.

I’ve reported to the HA and the Police twice, first in 2015 when my HA visited them and I got an email stating there will be no more trouble over parking.

The next day, I sat in my car outside my own house, and videoed the neighbour dumping black bags of rubbish on my doorstep. An hour later he returned and said ‘My son told me to move the rubbish!’ Again I said nothing although inside I was raging.

Last week it started again. I’ve reported to Police and HA who have again visited him. A letter has gone out to the whole street saying parking is first come first served and no bay belongs to anyone. The HA officer is now on holiday so I await the outcome after she visited them again.

We’ve had the neighbours shouting and being rude to us since. Everything is being recorded now. It causes me and my daughter so much anxiety, and stress.

I’m hoping to move this year, had enough of petty, small minded neighbours who cause problems and can’t wait to get away!

Good luck with it all, I hope it gets sorted sooner rather than later. I’d add cctv cameras if I could afford it. At present we just record on our phones and add the recordings to a folder of evidence we are collecting.

lollee Tue 26-Jun-18 12:17:05

It's no wonder that so many people pave over their front gardens and pay for a dropped kerb, something i previously hated but can now understand why. Trouble with too many dropped kerbs is that there becomes less and less space for other cars and visitors to park.

kooklafan Tue 26-Jun-18 12:33:14

Don't start me off about neighbors. We have lived in our property for over four years, it's a semi detached. Our old neighbor passed away at Christmas so in January we got new neighbors. They put up a fence without even mentioning it to us (open plan gardens) They have a dog that is continuously barking and growls every time we go out of our door and to top it off the front communal lawn has an oval shaped flower bed right in the centre where daffodils shoot up from every Spring. Well the new neighbor decided to cut his front lawn and also chopped down his half of the flower bed, daffodils et al. I saw this as provocative. I appreciate that it is his side of the garden but why would someone do that? The flower bed is shared. We haven't said anything yet but it's simmering away slowly. As far as the parking problem, I agree with what everyone else has said.

palliser65 Tue 26-Jun-18 13:04:52

Perhaps they look out onto your car. I wouldn't like this and would probably mention it. I'd take a look how your parking impacts on your neighbours. Should it not do then i'm not sure why they are so irritated. Considering good relations with neighbours are important i'd cut back hedge.

Lorelei Tue 26-Jun-18 13:10:20

It sounds as though this neighbour is a nightmare for you and other nearby residents. He is a bully and his behaviour is not only intimidating, upsetting, offensive and damn right nasty, but dangerous - if he can punch an 81-year-old and give him a black eye, then he is clearly ready to use violence and needs to be arrested for assault. He has spent years trying to control other neighbours, obviously thinks everything should be done his way or the high way, as such, and doesn't care who he upsets. Follow the legal channels and demand the police support and protect you - build the needed evidence and prosecute. It sounds as though your family have enough to cope with without having to be afraid in and around your own home. I hope the operation helps your daughter with her seizures and that your family soon get some peace and quiet - life is hard enough. I'm sure many of us on Gransnet will at least offer moral support and/or helpful advice when asked. I have experience of living with 'neighbours from hell' (4 and a half years at one address, and just over a year at another) so know how it can affect every area of your life - I hope it can somehow be resolved for you. flowers

lollee Tue 26-Jun-18 14:05:33

Why oh why are there so many awful people in the world who seem to get joy out of upsetting and hurting others? I know there isn't an answer but if we can't live at peace with our neighbours, how do we expect warring countries to find peace?

OldMeg Tue 26-Jun-18 14:49:10

Do you really want this to escalate?

Grub up the bloody hedge and make room for parking closer to your own house.

Synonymous Tue 26-Jun-18 15:26:41

I agree lollee and there seem to be so many more around nowadays. I think many are living out their dreams of being in a soap and enjoying their sense of power over others which is sheer nastiness.

We too have lived with this ourselves and finally realised that if you can't actually take the fight to them and face them down they seem to be unable to understand how you tick and so they just keep poking at you. I will give you an example: The people next door to us in our previous home continually played music on their radio which was trained in our direction. This was done at all hours and particularly very early in the morning. One day the postman delivered a cd we had ordered and the first piece on it was Aaron Copeland's 'Fanfare for the common man'. DH is a very peaceable man but even he has his limits so he carried out our stereo system into the conservatory, opened all the windows and doors facing our neighbours house and played it at full volume using the T bass setting to bring out all the bass notes. I have never in my life, before or since, heard anything so dramatic. It quite frightened me, the walls were shaking and I actually thought that the windows were going to break. When the piece ended DH turned the stereo off and put everything away in a deathly hush. We were never disturbed again and the memory of the incident still makes me chuckle. hmm

OldMeg Tue 26-Jun-18 15:30:47

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Synonymous Tue 26-Jun-18 15:37:04

NB
It takes a bit of sifting and gleaning to get the whole picture about swollen's problems to understand the situation. She is meeting with the Police and Housing Association again and the HA will deal with their obligations - hopefully. It may well be that unless an injunction or court order can be put in place this man will just find something else as he has done with the other neighbours.

HurdyGurdy Tue 26-Jun-18 16:08:42

I wonder what all the other neighbours think about your massive, albeit "neatly trimmed" hedge. Sticking out a metre beyond your property line, is taking the mick a bit. And look where it's got you - nothing but bad feelings, and stress, which has now escalated to police involvement.

All of which could have been avoided by you just cutting the ruddy thing back and parking where any normal house owner would.

For the sake of your two disabled adult children, if nothing else, I would be taking the shears to that hedge. Then see if the neighbour "from hell" leaves you alone.

Until you do this, you'll never know if he really is "from hell" or just got his codpiece in a pucker over a car being parked in an inconvenient place.

Once the hedge is back to a reasonable size, and the car isn't parked where it ought not to be, then your neighbour should be more than happy to just leave you alone. And if he's not, then you've lost nothing, but gained space outside your house, and as the police are already involved, then they can carry on with their investigations

Honestly, with all the crap going on in the world, I can't believe this has escalated to this point because two neighbours have both dug their heels in. Over a flipping hedge and a bit of unadopted road. Pick your battles. I really don't think a hedge is worthy of this much aggro.

Synonymous Tue 26-Jun-18 16:14:32

No

Synonymous Tue 26-Jun-18 16:29:56

Sorry, hit post too soon. I was going to reiterate what has already been said about understanding the full circumstances by careful reading but there seems to be little point as that probably won't be read either. sad

swollen Please don't let the negativity of those who have not understood what is going on add to your stress levels. Sadly this does happen. hmm I do hope your meeting goes well and that the HA will sort out the boundary issues if there really are any and maybe they will take out an injunction to protect all their tenants. You will probably need to ask. Hopefully the Police will bring pressure to bear anyway and you will all be safer. I wouldn't be at all surprised if there are mental health issues involved especially if he is assaulting your other 81 year old neighbourand and that is where your evidence will be helpful in providing the proof.

Plumblady Tue 26-Jun-18 16:49:56

A friend of mine who is elderly and disabled has had her life made hell because of her VISITORS parking on the road outside HER house! She hasn't got a car, so 99% of the time the space is free! Neighbours have bought an old banger and parked it outside her house just so nobody else can park there, they get in it every now and then and rev it up till blue smoke pours out everywhere. You cannot make it up how petty and weird some people are......I feel your pain xx