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Callistemon Mon 25-Nov-19 12:23:12

1 Location

2 Get a survey done first before purchasing

3 Do the usual searches - what is in the countryside now could be surrounded by a housing estate or worse before you realise

4 Be careful if it is listed as trying to get permission for renovations could be agonisingly slow or totally refused.

Grammaretto Mon 25-Nov-19 11:23:21

Thank you MOnica for your insights and for advice. I will definitely take that with me and pass it on, and the 25% isa savings offer mcem thanks.

mcem Mon 25-Nov-19 11:15:49

At risk register shows a disused church in Galashiels!
Good location!

M0nica Mon 25-Nov-19 11:08:53

The first question is: what is their skill set. To successfully do up a house on a budget the owners have to do a lot of it themselves. If they are not prepared to tackle work like fitting kitchens and bathrooms, doing plumbing, plastering and carpentry, then forget it. The second thing to do is get a through survey, if they do not have the knowledge themselves.

We are serial house renovators and the key to it all has been that DH is one of those people who understands buildings, he is a marine surveyor, and such skills are transferable and he can turn his hand to anything. He has rewired two houses , one to French regulations, one to British and had them inspected and passed by professionals with out alteration, He has fitted at least 6 kitchens, done bathrooms, knocked walls down, built walls etc etc. I am totally cack handed so I am the navvy and decorator, garden clearer and replanter.

Match your project to your skills, There are a lot of perfectly decent houses for sale that have been lived in for 30-40 years by the same person, probably an executor's sale, where there is little wrong with the house structurally, roof and walls are good electric wiring fine, even central heating OK but the decor is tired and old-fashioned and the kitchen and bathroom need a refit and the garden needs weeding. Houses like this can be lived in quite satisfactorily while the house is gradually renovated as time and money permit and are good starter projects.

I suspect that this is the kind of property your DD and SiL should be looking for Grammaretto

Buildings-at-risk, are definitely for the experienced. They are usually Listed Buildings, with all the complications of complying with Conservation rules etc. They will also be very difficult to mortgage. A decent standard tired looking house should be mortgagable. A Building Society on occasion will put conditions on it. We once had to rewire the house within 6 months and have a woodwork survey, but DS bought a flat in a modern well maintained block, where the internal condition was dreadful (think elderly man sitting in it for 10 years chain smoking and never opening a window, or doing much cleaning) with our mortgage problems. It took three weeks to scrub, clean and paint, a new kitchen and bathroom were fitted in months plus new storage radiators. The value increased by 50%. Total cost in current terms, comfortably under £10,000

mcem Mon 25-Nov-19 11:06:06

Apart from location and condition of property, if they are first-time buyers they really need to look at isa savings accounts designed to add 25% to their savings pot. December sees the end of this offer so no -one considering a first time mortgage in the near future should delay their application.

Grammaretto Mon 25-Nov-19 10:22:37

What did your friend's daughter do eventually?
There must be many young, or even not so young, people in similar situations but only big developers can afford to buy outright.
It seems a shame as lovely historic places are then lost forever, and all the young ones can afford are new builds.

There's a Buildings at Risk register in Scotland but it isn't an estate agent for property. There are some pictureque places listed.

www.buildingsatrisk.org.uk/

Oopsminty Mon 25-Nov-19 10:03:34

Hi Grammaretto. I think the question is, would they get a mortgage on a run down property?

My friend's daughter wanted to buy a run down cottage but couldn't get finance for it.

I think the idea is great if they are that way inclined and can build a lovely home from a shell.

Good luck to them!

Grammaretto Mon 25-Nov-19 09:59:46

DD & SiL, in their 30s, want to buy their own place. They are currently renting a rural property. The prices around here, Scottish Borders, are high for something similar and they don't want to have to move again in a hurry with 2 DC under 5.

Has anyone advice, warnings, ideas, suggestions, experience of perhaps restoring a semi-derelict place in the country to prevent them making awful mistakes?

I think location is paramount but perhaps beggars can't be choosers.

I may have been watching too many episodes of Grand Design where it all comes right in the end!