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The future of plastic

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NfkDumpling Thu 27-Feb-20 22:13:18

Our town tried to go plastic bag free. Only Tesco didn’t join in - and the butchers who, by law, apparently must put meat into plastic bags. Of course many shops have slid back as plastic bags are cheaper than paper.

BradfordLass73 Thu 27-Feb-20 20:36:55

It's totally unrealistic to sugges we can do without plastic. It's superior qualities for hygiene, versatility and durability will keep it in place in many areas.

A local paper brought out results of a survey of how people dispose of the paper which has replaced plastic bags.

They burn it!
Plastic bags they used - for all manner of things. Paper just goes on fire, bonfire or to start the BBQ - and this despite the plethora of recycle messages. Less than 1% of paper bags are recycled and they're genrall too flimsy to reuse.

The shopping we could get into 2 plastic bags, now has to be packed into 4 paper ones becaue they're not as strong as the plastic ones.
In addition, supermarkets sell more commercial plastic bags than ever before.

Re-usable bags are promoted and many regularly use them but there's an argument that they too are a detriment to environment in their manufacture.
Some even contain (shock, horror) plastic for durability!!

All we can do is try to be sensible (and not hysterical) about the issue; cut down where and when we can on our own usage; not preach to others what they should be doing as if people who use plastic are now pariahs.

It's a bandwagon and you can't let it run over you and steal your soul smile

Like it or not, polymers are here to stay.

Calendargirl Thu 27-Feb-20 18:04:41

Our Boots pharmacy which had started issuing prescriptions in plastic bags has now changed to using ones made from potato starch, which as previously mentioned can go in the compost bin.

Chestnut Thu 27-Feb-20 17:59:23

The bags I use for food recycling are biodegradable but they are pretty fragile and not meant to last. The challenge will be in making plastic bags which last for about a year because they must be fit for purpose but not last for ever. The same with plastic water bottles etc. which must hold the contents safely but not last for ever. Difficult. I can't see drinks manufacturers wanting to use any other type of container other than plastic and they are the worst pollutants ever.

gillybob Thu 27-Feb-20 17:51:41

When my DH was in the ICU I have never seen so much single use plastic . After a patient has left the cubicle everything in the drawers and on the benches is destroyed whether it was used or not . I can’t see how they could do it any other way as there is too much risk of infection to reuse anything.

MerylStreep Thu 27-Feb-20 17:46:53

Yes, plastic can be a horror but thank goodness their are people in the world who are really thinking outside the box.

Did anyone see the chap in China building houses from recycling via a 3D printer. We aren't talking about your average PC here this is a huge project and the houses are very strong.

NfkDumpling Thu 27-Feb-20 17:40:47

Plastic packaging is being made from potato starch now which is a start. www.bigcompostexperiment.org.uk/
I heard about this on the radio this afternoon. If you have a compost heap ....! We have put a RSPB magazine wrapper and a few other magazine wrappers on ours and they seem to have vanished.

Apparently there are spoons and such which are supposed to be compostable so things are moving slowly in the right direction. I don’t think we’ll ever be plastic free now. The genie is out.

NotSpaghetti Thu 27-Feb-20 17:36:20

I think there are arguments for multiple use plastics. It's the single use ones that are the worst I understand.

Bbarb Thu 27-Feb-20 17:24:37

I remember distinctly my Mum wrapping sandwiches up in greaseproof paper. I look in my freezer and see all those meals that I've made, in plastic bags, with plastic ties - and I thought I was doing the 'right' thing.
My plastic windows, my plastic vacuum cleaner, plastic everything ..... its everywhere!
Roll on someone making a satisfactory degradable plastic - they will deserve to make a fortune.

SueDonim Thu 27-Feb-20 14:43:29

Hospital use can be justified, I think, because it means infections are more controlled. Although when I was in hospital with a broken leg a nurse used a pair of scissors to snip something on my dressings. She left her scissors on my tray table so I pointed them out when someone passed by. She took the scissors and dropped them into the Hazardous Waste bin, saying they were single-use only! I was cross at that, because if I’d known, I’ve have brought them home to use for my craftwork as they were devilishly sharp. Not plastic, of course, but still...hmm

Yes, I’ve thought about the sachets in cafes. They must mount up. Some places still have sauce bottles, though.

I don’t suppose the inventors of plastic ever dreamt that it would become as ubiquitous as it has. I was astonished yesterday to learn that some inexpensive central heating boilers have plastic innards! The engineer said it’s a false economy, because they wear out faster and are often unrepairable so the whole boiler has to be replaced.

I’m trying to cut out as much single-use plastic as possible, eg I’ve been using my own shopping bags since the days when shops really frowned upon them because ‘you might be shoplifting’. shock

Urmstongran Thu 27-Feb-20 14:12:12

What about all the sachets in cafes etc - ketchup. mayo - and for shampoo etc.!

Chestnut Thu 27-Feb-20 14:08:33

Science needs to step in and find a replacement that is biodegradable. I am amazed that sometime in the past everyone thought it was okay to create a substance that doesn't biodegrade and then proceed to manufacture it in such jaw dropping quantities. Didn't people realise where this would lead? If you use it for anything and everything then what did they ever think would happen to it all?

Bbarb Thu 27-Feb-20 13:55:10

When (or more likely IF) the manufacture of plastic is phased out altogether HOW WILL WE MANAGE?
I know we got along nicely with bakerlite and such - but plastic is now embedded in nearly every aspect of our daily lives I cannot see us coping well at all! Hospitals must use tons of the stuff.