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Inheritance and divorce.

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Maries Mon 26-Nov-12 08:43:43

Really absentgranna? I have just read the DIRECT GOV website and it says it is. Unreasonable behaviour is a separate category. Its the quickest divorce category according to them although not much used. Not as I think DB will file for adultery because it is likely to cause even harder feeling I am sure.

There wasnt going to be a DIY will. We all worked out intestecy would leave everyone better placed ( no contesting of wishes) and the tax is being got round in other ways. We have been on the end of wills which do not go right. You would be surprised what some folk will do for money. I have been shocked over what a distant relative did when my aunt died. And the tale I could tell about my DH's "inheritance" would make you hair curl! That was with a will.

Elegran Mon 26-Nov-12 08:37:55

absent We are at one over this issue. This is emotional blackmail and should not be given in to.

Elegran Mon 26-Nov-12 08:36:07

One consultation would not break the bank, Maries, and could save a lot more heartache (and money) later on. Maybe sooner than you think, and it is too late to alter anything once your mother's will becomes active. At least ask for an estimate of what a consultation would cost you, and then mentally subtract that from what she would cost without doing it. you can judge whether it would be worth it.

She would not know anything about a confidential talk with an expert, so could not react. As it is she has your brother over a barrel and knows that he will not upset the apple cart even if he is in the right.

absentgrana Mon 26-Nov-12 08:33:06

Maries Adultery, as such, hasn't been grounds for divorce for decades, although it can be used as evidence of unreasonable behaviour.

Your mother could consult a solicitor without running up a huge bill and there is absolutely no way your sister-in-law need know about it, so emotions don't come into it. Spending a little money might avoid a complete and very expensive mess after her death if she does a diy will.

There will always be the question of the child in any sort of divorce, but courts seem to pay rather more attention to a child's need of both parents these days.

Maries Mon 26-Nov-12 08:21:44

PS - SiL will put the child into the battle. She has no scruples on that.

Maries Mon 26-Nov-12 08:19:21

I think we would rather not, at least initially, like to line the pockets of a solicitor or indeed cause emotions to run high as a result of solicitors.

DB could petition adultery of course but it is likely to lead to a battle over the child - and one which may cause even more emotional turmoil.

Just looking for possibilities really. Thanks.

Elegran Mon 26-Nov-12 08:18:41

Yes, it would be worth the cost of your mother consulting someone who specialises in inheritance law and estate planning. How about a trust fund?

It could also be worth the trouble of your brother consulting someone about divorce proceedings - it sounds as though he is the "innocent party" in this, although that term does not seemto be invogue these days. Even if he does not act, it might put the wind up her so that she settles for less. Fight fire with fire.

absentgrana Mon 26-Nov-12 08:15:59

I am pretty certain that there is a way round this but, as already pointed out, your mother and brother should get proper legal advice. By the way, your sister-in-law cannot delay divorce indefinitely. After a certain number of years living separately, divorce can take place even if she doesn't consent. Again, your brother should get proper legal advice. He might also like to ask about divorce now on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour, given that she has chucked him out of the marital home and has, apparently, been having flings.

Greatnan Mon 26-Nov-12 08:07:33

Your brother should consult a solicitor
It would be very unwise to act on advice given on a forum by people who do not know the full circumstances however well qualified they may be

Maries Mon 26-Nov-12 08:01:37

This may sound rather horrid really but here goes.

Background:

My brother is separated from his wife.This is not legal, she kicked him out because she wanted to " be happy" and wanted to find another bloke ( I guess - she has had several flings since then). He went to live with mum as it was the only place he could go and he doesnt have enough money to set up alone ( job is 14K a year)

She has three DC - one of which is by my brother. He pays her maintenance for the childand is a weekend dad ( and any time she calls and says she wants the kid out so she can "entertain").

Mum is, well, "wealthy" .This is thanks to inheritances from her childless sister and several inheritances from my fathers family as well as her ownand dads assets. Dad passed away last year.

She has said she was going to split it between me and brother equally. She is worred that she makes sure as much of this money gets to us as possible.

However, my brother has just told her that his estranged wife has said she will not divorce him until after my mother dies and he has his inheritance! She wants it to form part of her settlement on a divorce ( cheeky IMHO!).

It seems she can do this. My mother is livid as she doesnt want to fund her lifestyle. Brothers legal sitiation is currently married but living separately
(just under a year).

Mum is getting on ( and she could go any time but lets be honest, its not likely to be more than six years unless she tanks up over 100 and then it wont be above 10 years) we all know but it doesnt matter when because as ex wife says she is hanging on and we are pretty sure she will too) DB's son is 6, so waiting until he is 16 is an option for her.

Mum doesnt know what she can do to ensure my brother is well set up - has a home etc. which cannot be taken by ex wife when she divorces ( btw wife has marital home in her name as it was hers before she married and brother moved in, paying bills etc. She works. She kickedDB out when she found out mum was not dividing the cash up immediately and she would have to wait to " have fun" and she didnt want to wait as she would be "too old" ....... yeah, I know......at least she is honest ).

Apparently it is the case that all is in the pot on divorce iincluding any inheritances. But, is there anythiong mum can do to safeguard what she wants to give to DB from his estranged wife?

(I know it makes us sound malicious and nasty people to want to leave her out of the inheritance but it is hard earned family dosh)