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HUNTERF Wed 20-Mar-13 15:14:39

Has anybody got rich as a result of the budget today?.

Frank

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POGS Mon 25-Mar-13 22:00:42

absent

It wasn't the fact 1p tax was taken off a pint, the beer escalator was cancelled as well.

It does sound trite when only the 1p off a pint is continually 'scoffed' at I agree. When you point out the alternative could have meant 5p or 6p put on a pint then the value of the budget decision becomes more relevant. That's why it was welcomed by the industry.

As for the cost of malt rising, it does not neccessarily follow pubs and clubs will increase their cost to the customer. My local club and others keep the cost of beer as low as they can, the money is made on wines, spirits and sundries plus room hire etc. Pubs will close sadly I agree but the discussion was about the Budget and it's detail.

absent Mon 25-Mar-13 07:30:59

POGS As the price of malt has risen recently, the price of beer will or already has gone up. Successive governments have increased the tax on beer over a long period of time and I cannot see that a 1p per pint reduction in tax now will do anything to halt the steady closure of pubs (and clubs) across the country.

POGS Sun 24-Mar-13 17:50:48

I agree with Greatnan, get back to the OP for heavens sake.

The 1p off the pint of beer and the cancellation of the Beer Escalator was good news for the brewing industry. Had this not happened, beer would have increased by about 5p to 6p a pint in the pubs and clubs, who are already struggling. It was certainly welcomed too by the micro breweries and CAMRA.

The fact there was hardly any coverage of the budget after the event, other than the housing policy, meant it was O.K., as budgets go.

I am sick and tired of the media, especially the b----y BBC having a go at every turn and running the country down. I wish they would all give as much attention to 'good' news and figures as they do to the bad.

Elegran Sun 24-Mar-13 11:41:17

And it does make a difference to the balance at the bottom of the council's accounts - if that money is promised to you it won't be available to spend on something else. The council would look as though it were rolling in unspent money if it did not list pensions as money spent.

Anne58 Sun 24-Mar-13 00:21:29

Businesses categorise things as assets and liabilities, anything that involves paying out money is classed as a liability/cost.

HUNTERF Sat 23-Mar-13 22:50:02

What I find annoying Greatnan is various papers publish figures on how much the council pensions are costing the council tax payers.
In my case I worked for the council for 5 years and paid nearly 40% of my salary in to the pension scheme to buy additional years of service.
I have been advised that the council count it as a cost but it is not a cost as I have in effect deposited the money so it can be repaid to me as pension over time.

Frank

Greatnan Sat 23-Mar-13 20:55:30

To reply to the reasonably sensible op - I will be about 400 pounds a year better off after 6th April as my two Government Service pensions will rise by 2.2% and my state retirement pension by 2.5% with very little increase in income tax as I get two personal allowances - one in the UK and one in France. I am not complaining, even though they fiddled with the RPI to stop us getting 2.6%. on public sector pensions. Bearing in mind how many people have lost their job, live in fear of losing it, or have had a pay freeze, I feel we older people have done quite well.

Anne58 Sat 23-Mar-13 20:39:13

Same here, but it "oddly enough" it really does seem that someone in Frank's world did die.

Ana Sat 23-Mar-13 20:35:08

Me too! grin

Galen Sat 23-Mar-13 20:34:33

I like assed away!

Anne58 Sat 23-Mar-13 20:23:06

Hallelujah ! Hallelujah! Hallelujah!

Someone has actually "died" not p assed away.

Enviousamerican Sat 23-Mar-13 20:21:20

I mean might need. Sorry.

Enviousamerican Sat 23-Mar-13 20:20:10

I'll be matter of fact Frank and just let you know that excessive blood donations can scar your veins which you mine need access to in your old age. age cut off is 75 in the US. Have you ever looked at those needles? Like drinking straws,well not really but close!!! I was a nurse if I seem to come across as a "know it all"

HUNTERF Sat 23-Mar-13 20:08:44

glammanana

I have agreed to sit in on a few meetings now and sadly when the time came the patient had died.
These people were expected to only have about 6 months to live about 10 months ago.

Frank

Ana Sat 23-Mar-13 19:53:57

Frank is nothing if not matter-of-fact about these things!

glammanana Sat 23-Mar-13 19:52:12

Nonu don't know weither to be flattered or flattened ?
Its not a very nice thought though is it stating that the parents may not be alive in a few weeks,you certainly have a very low sort of respect for other people's lives.

Nonu Sat 23-Mar-13 19:47:50

Good on you , why the devil not !!!

Greatnan Sat 23-Mar-13 19:45:02

I think you are all enjoying encouraging Frank in his endless saga about his house - otherwise there is a simple way to stop him waffling on about it. Just ignore his posts.
I find his non sequitors quite baffling so I am now skipping everything he writes.

Nonu Sat 23-Mar-13 19:38:31

Glam . do you feel proud you have been singled out , I am so jealous !!!!!!!!!!!!

moon

HUNTERF Sat 23-Mar-13 19:33:08

Hi glammanana

I will be sitting in on an assessment with some men in a few weeks time assuming their parents are still alive.
Unfortunately I think assessors are being instructed to try and save money. I even know of a case of a social worker trying to tell the offspring to downsize their own house because the social workers think the properties are too large for 1 person and the social worker asked a person where the funds had gone from the sale of his house which he owned in the past. He was living as a joint owner of the house with his father half inherited from his mother.
The social worker should have not asked that question.

Frank

glammanana Sat 23-Mar-13 19:32:10

Nonu xx peace & moon

Nonu Sat 23-Mar-13 19:01:32

Glam.

xx

moon

glammanana Sat 23-Mar-13 18:49:04

Nonu don't you start him off again I've got a headache grin

Nonu Sat 23-Mar-13 18:45:58

Surely though your wife , her estate would go to you and the progeny .Unless it was willed otherwise .