Advice re winding up estate.

Hi absent

The reason I will not get married again is that it will complicate matters with my estate as hopefully my daughters will outlive me.
I saw a case where somebody got married again and the children got half the house on the death of the first wife.
He left his half of the house to his children on the proviso that his second wife could live in it for the rest of her life.
The will was made after the wedding and it was legal.
He passed away and she got married again and she bought a man in to the house and the children set their solicitor on to her as she was not permitted to do this under the terms of the father's will.
This went on for about a year and the lady died and the man would not leave the house.
As it happened the man passed away a few weeks later before the matter got to court.
To top the lot his children then wanted a share of the estate but this never got to court.

Frank

The fact that someone else wrote a stupid will is not a reason for not getting married again if you actually wanted to. Presumably, you don't.

Absent

I did go out with a woman for a few weeks and she started talking in terms that we might get married and the 2 estates would have to be split evenly on both sides.
She had 4 children and a house worth about half of what mine was worth and I only have 2 daughters.
I decided that it was best not to get married again at that point.

Frank

absent

The intention was only the lady had the right to live in the house for the rest of her life.
She got married again and bought her new husband in to the house and she then passed away.
In theory the man could have then been living in the house and he could have bought a new wife in and it could have gone on an on to the point that the children would never get their inheritance.
They had no alternative but to take action to get him kicked out.

Frank

Absent

The will was not stupid.
The children owned half the house on the death of the first wife and could not be expected to wait any longer.

Frank

It was a stupid will – this lifelong use of the house has always caused problems. The husband did not have any rights to the house and that includes living there with a new wife after the death of the first one. That's still not a reason for not getting married. However, it seems that you only ever meet women whose topic of conversation is how to divvy up joint assets so there's not much hope of real romance.

Meanwhile, what were the children doing, apart from waiting for their inheritance? How sad to organise your life around that!

Didn't those kids (adults by then?) have jobs and something to live for?

May I ask, Frank, if your daughters ever come to stay with you in your house? I'm just curious, somof course you don't have to answer that if you'd rather not.

It's nice to now Frank approached the idea of marriage in the right frame of mind

Hi absent

I think the second husband was stupid in not making sure accommodation was there if the wife passed away.
No arrangement was made with the children so they were within their rights to throw him out.
They owned half the house anyway before the second wife passed away.
He should have checked the ownership of the house at the land registry and got the advice of a solicitor if he was unsure.

Frank

Tunnel vision.

Baggying off.

Bags

The children had jobs but legally the house was theirs.
My daughters visit me at my house but only live about 2 miles away.

Fank

Bags

I agree it was hard on the second husband but what would have you expected from the children under the circumstances?.

Frank

Ditto Bags. I shall make myself absent.

I've been absent from here for a long time, absent Frank either can't or won't change track, or is enjoying frustrating everyone who tries to let in a chink of light. Or perhaps he is a figment of someone's fertile imagination.

Elegran

The above mentioned gransnetters have not come up with any valid reason why the children should not have thrown the second husband out of the house.

Frank

HUNTERF No one was suggesting that he should have been allowed to stay. I think you have misunderstood the posts.

What prevents you giving a straight answer to a straight question, Frank? It's impossible to have any meaningful dialogue with you when we are met with these single-track responses. I'm interested to know how you have fallen into this helping role.

Hi absent

I would have had some sympathy with the man if he had to leave the house as he would have been homeless.
I don't think he could have been kicked out the minute the court made the order for him to leave.
I think the court would have given him reasonable time to find alternative accommodation.
What people are not realising that when the father married the second wife at that point the children were half owners of the house and had a title to the house.
They made an agreement for the second wife to be able to stay in the house on the basis that they would get all of the house when the second wife passed away.
They just wanted that agreement honoured which was perfectly reasonable.

Frank

Harking way, way back - phoenix sorry if I stole your idea. Would you be up for writing the screenplay?

kittylester

How does this relate to this forum?.

Frank I really pity you. All you seem to ever think about is money. Whether it be inheritance, pension, wills,benefits etc.

I know you will find this shocking but there really is so much more to life.

How can anyone be happy when their entire life seems to be taken over by this obsession?

IVE SOLVED IT. EUREKA!

Frank is a very simple computer who has been preprogrammed with a very limited range of responses. Probably by a Chinese student computer engineer!

gillybob

I find it very annoying that you have to watch money so much.
As you may know a lady wanted me to be kicked out of the house I am in and own and she had about 20 supporters.
I have just had a phone call to say she is now in hospital and do I want to send her a get well card.
I am sure the person was winding me up.

Frank