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Off to sit in on a care home assessment again.

(28 Posts)
HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 09:35:30

A lady has asked me to go to a Care Home annual assessment today.
I think it is the same nurse who saw me with another person 3 weeks ago.
I hope she is going to make me very welcome.

Frank

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 09:37:07

I hope so too. Please make sure that you tell us absolutely everything that is said, especially your explanation about why the lady cannot be expected to sell her house. I am so looking forward to it.

Ariadne Tue 09-Apr-13 09:38:13

absent grin Oh he will, he will..

HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 09:50:14

I hope the nurse would have the intelligence to realise why the house can not be sold.
The father got married again after the lady's mother died.
The daughter was left half of the house by her mother and the other half was left to her by her father on condition that the second wife had the right to stay in the house until second wife dies or is taken in to a nursing home.
As this has now happened the daughter has now moved in to the house.

Frank

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 09:55:53

Oh joy! Oh rapture!

sunseeker Tue 09-Apr-13 10:11:17

Frank how do all these women find you - do you advertise your services?

whenim64 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:11:29

'Strewth! Off we go again!

Ana Tue 09-Apr-13 10:14:02

Well, you don't have to read Frank's threads....hmm

j08 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:16:32

Just don't expect biscuits with your tea Frank.

Keep up the good work. smile

whenim64 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:53:53

I'm sure I've seen comments on threads/posts you don't agree with Ana. I don't mind you commenting, so please don't mind me smile

Ana Tue 09-Apr-13 10:58:03

Only thinking of your blood pressure, when...smile

whenim64 Tue 09-Apr-13 10:59:07

grin

Greatnan Tue 09-Apr-13 11:28:18

I am beginning to think he is a national treasure -he must be saving Social Services and CAB a mint with his amateur counselling service. smile

glammanana Tue 09-Apr-13 13:02:22

greatnan I think he could turn professional and hire himself out,making sure he pays the higher rate of income tax ofcourse.grin go fot it Frank betting you win the assessment for your friend.grin

HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 13:28:21

Well I am sorry to have to disappoint all of you but it was fairly uneventful.
The nurse said that she had looked at the records and it was obvious that the step mother qualified for NHS funding as soon as we sat down.
I don't know if me being there influenced what the nurse said.
The only question she asked both of us is what we thought about the step mothers behaviour.
I last saw the step mother just before Christmas and it has certainly deteriorated drastically since then and the step daughter said it had deteriorated but I don't think she realised by how much as she visits most days.
We were however warned by the nurse that the step mother may not qualify for NHS funding next year and she said to sell the step mothers house.
We did say that the step mother only had a life time right to live in the house or till the step mother entered a nursing home and the step daughter is the owner of the house she was living in.
The nurse did say that a life time right to live in the property means the step mother owns the property but the step daughter has the right to the property after the care fees have been paid which is incorrect.
As the mother was not even expected to live till now I decided it was not worth arguing and I would advise the step daughter to involve a solicitor next year if the council tries to take the house.
What I am concerned about is how many houses have been sold under similar circumstances and what would have happened to the lady if she had been taken in to the nursing home and she had recovered a few weeks later.
This will not happen but it appears that the step daughter could have taken the home and would have had no legal responsibility for the woman's accommodation.

Frank

gracesmum Tue 09-Apr-13 13:33:24

"Time for bed", said Zebedee shock yawn emoticon

HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 13:33:34

Greatnan

I don't think I am a treasure to Social Services as they always want the parents home sold
I know the care nurse and the social workers work in the same office at the local hospital and I think they try to get the patient or the family to pay first even though they know the family or the patient are not legally obliged to pay.

Frank

absent Tue 09-Apr-13 13:35:50

Tell me more, tell me more… [sigh]

HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 13:40:19

Sorry absent. There is no more to tell.
I will tell you more next year if the step mother is assessed next year but several people will be extremely surprised if the step mother is still alive.
I will be going to another assessment in a few weeks time.

Frank

HUNTERF Tue 09-Apr-13 13:41:26

O'h and the step mother was sleeping when we left.

Frank

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HUNTERF Tue 11-Jun-13 16:02:05

Just to let you know the step mother has just died so there will be no assessment next year.
So much for the nurse saying sell the house as the step mother might not qualify for NHS funding next year.

Frank

soop Tue 11-Jun-13 16:48:33

Frank has a good heart. sunshine

HUNTERF Tue 09-Jul-13 11:19:16

Just been to another care assessment and we have been told the father qualifies for NHS funding for another year.

The house is jointly owned by the father and son.

She said there is the possibility he will not qualify for NHS funding next year and she advised the son to downsize the jointly owned property.

After I pointed it out he was not legally obliged to do this she then said that she thought the son would be more comfortable in a smaller property.

When we spoke last year the doctor and 2 nurses were of the opinion that the father's chance of being alive this year was very slim.

Obviously the person was trying to persuade the son into downsizing to release funds for the fathers care should they be needed but I am sure the son could do without the hassle of a move at this point and also the fact that the father is very unlikely to be alive next year enters in to the equation.

Also if the son wants to move I think he will feel even more comfortable if he waits for his father to die and then downsize so he can then enjoy the surplus proceeds from the house.

Frank

absent Tue 09-Jul-13 19:39:28

These deaths are getting more suspicious than Midsommer Murders.