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Jury service

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mollie Thu 27-Jun-13 14:36:55

I've been called for jury service and really don't want to do it. I know I'm obliged to but I don't want to stand in judgement of anyone. Do I have any hope of being excused?

vegasmags Thu 27-Jun-13 14:46:30

Mollie - it won't be you who stands in judgment - that's the role of the judge, not the juror!

HUNTERF Thu 27-Jun-13 14:52:26

I don't know if I will have to do jury service at some point.
I was called 4 times when I lived in London and I got called again in Birmingham.
I phoned and said I thought this was a bit unreasonable as some people never get called.
They did say I could be called once every 2 years but they have deferred it.

Frank

mollie Thu 27-Jun-13 15:09:32

Vegasmags ... Technically but as a juror I will still have to decide guilty or not. I have no faith in the legal profession nor the police force so how can I possibly know the truth and make a fair and honest decision?

HildaW Thu 27-Jun-13 15:10:53

There are exclusions - but its considered a duty of our society - can be a bit inconvenient but we should all be willing to do it.

MiceElf Thu 27-Jun-13 15:28:01

You won't be standing in judgment. You will be listening to the evidence, and, then, after the judge has summed up, and advised you on the law, you, with eleven others will decide if there is enough evidence to prove the case beyond reasonable doubt.

Sentencing is a matter for the judge.

kittylester Thu 27-Jun-13 15:30:29

Most people who are called for jury duty never actually sit on a jury for one reason or another. They are not chosen, they are chosen but the defence object to them for some reason or another or the trial goes down because of a guilty plea or some other reason. So, hopefully, you will have nothing to do except sit around - I suggest you take a good book grin

petallus Thu 27-Jun-13 15:32:21

I was a juror and did feel I was having to decide guilty/not guilty. The judge told us the points we should consider but did not really indicate which way we should go.

Several of us were rather upset by the experience and asked for a letter to be sent telling us what sentence was imposed.

MrsJamJam Thu 27-Jun-13 15:48:46

I found it to be a very rewarding experience. I was impressed with the care and seriousness that all my fellow jurors gave to discussing and deciding. I feel that in a democratic society we each have a responsibilty to undertake our civic duties and make our contribution to society. Much of our role might be to protect the innocent if we feel that the police and prosecutors are overstepping the mark.

mollie Thu 27-Jun-13 15:50:01

MiceElf, I'll be judging the evidence and deciding guilty or not. Of course I won't be passing sentence. I know I'll be one of a dozen but that might not be simple either. I just not want to do it, nothing to do with my time or inconvenience or work. I don't want to do it. I must have some rights?

KatyK Thu 27-Jun-13 15:50:27

It is very hard to be excused jury service. I know someone who was excused as he suffered with depression and anxiety but it was very hard for him to get excused. It involved doctors' letters, proof etc.

Grannyknot Thu 27-Jun-13 15:56:36

Like jam jam I found it to be interesting and I felt that it was right to do my duty as a juror. Decisions are made on the facts and evidence, and in all 3 the cases I was involved in, I had no doubt of the person's guilt, based on what was before us. Of course it wasn't a foregone conclusion, we deliberated for hours. Dare I say, I enjoyed being a juror.

HUNTERF Thu 27-Jun-13 16:06:02

KatyK

I may have been excused as detailed above as I just found the letter dated November 2009.

Frank

annodomini Thu 27-Jun-13 16:43:00

I was called at a very busy time in the college year and my boss asked for me to be excused. I also explained that I was a local councillor in a ward where I was pretty well known to the righteous and unrighteous alike.

MiceElf Thu 27-Jun-13 16:46:59

We do have rights, but we all have duties as citizens, to uphold the law and to serve on a jury if summonsed. There are very few exceptions; this is to ensure that juries are balanced and representative of the whole of the people.

HUNTERF Thu 27-Jun-13 17:05:17

MiceElf

I agree with what you are saying.
I don't think people should be called an unreasonable number of times.
I know somebody else who object. He had been called 7 times.
This was in 4 different areas.

Frank

mollie Thu 27-Jun-13 17:24:23

I was excused once when I was pregnant. Long time ago and a different area but I'm the only one in the whole of my family to be called so its a bit of a lottery. That word duty is contentious ... In an ideal world I'd agree but not any more. I've paid my taxes, lived within the rules, supported myself and my family so I've not been a burden to society. In this one thing I'd like to opt out ...

FlicketyB Thu 27-Jun-13 21:31:21

Mollie, the most important duty of a citizen, above all the other worthy things one may do in life, serving on a jury when chosen is the most important.

If you or any of your family were on trial for anything the first thing you would want to know is that the jury chosen to reach a decision on you or your family were a proper representation of all society. If all those who didn't want to do jury service were allowed to withdraw juries would contain only the cranks, crackpots, biased and barrack room lawyers. Would you want a jury like this making decision on the guilt or otherwise of you or your family? Yes, all those turn up on juries now but there are normally a solid majority of people who are a reasonable and rational and keep the oddballs in order.

I am not suggesting jury trials are without defects but they are the best we have and I believe it is everybody's duty to play their part in it to keep it as good as it can be.

mollie Thu 27-Jun-13 21:43:48

I accept the idea in theory but I will be a very unhappy, reluctant, resentful juror.

FlicketyB Thu 27-Jun-13 21:59:10

Unhappy and reluctant but do not be resentful that will cloud your judgement

Nonu Thu 27-Jun-13 22:06:51

I would hate to called for jury service.

j08 Thu 27-Jun-13 22:19:20

You are a very worthy person FlicketyB. hmm

Mollie You will have to try to look really mean and hard. Then all the crims will reject you.

gracesmum Thu 27-Jun-13 22:20:41

Who would you rather have on a jury if it concerned you or one of your family? You or A.N.Other who might have appalling prejudices, be rushing to finish the case quickly so that (s)he can get home for the weekend, or who might be fiddling their expenses ?
I respect your principles but if everybody of principle felt as you did, where would justice be?

j08 Thu 27-Jun-13 22:20:46

Ooh 'eck! I mean alleged crims! shock

gracesmum Thu 27-Jun-13 22:22:03

Oops! grin