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Where has Prince Andrew gone?

(90 Posts)
NotTooOld Sun 04-Jan-15 22:47:36

I didn't know where else to put this but have you noticed that our thread on Prince Andrew has been removed by GNHQ 'for legal reasons'?

whitewave Mon 05-Jan-15 11:31:02

GNHQ you really ought to reply to our comments! It is all about transparency these days hmm

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 12:13:40

Legal isnt a topic they look at very often?

merlotgran Mon 05-Jan-15 12:46:57

GNHQ said last night that if they deleted certain posts the thread wouldn't make sense so it would be better to delete the whole thing. hmm

merlotgran Mon 05-Jan-15 12:48:00

And although I said 'legal reasons' that might not have been their exact terminology. It was late and the thread disappeared while I was watching Foyle.

whenim64 Mon 05-Jan-15 12:56:15

It was their terminology, Merlot

The deleted thread can still be found, saying:

Thread deleted
Message from GNHQ: Removed for legal reasons.

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 12:59:40

Just been listening to a discussion on the Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2, in which much of the content of the GN thread was covered. I do think GNHQ has overreacted.

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 13:04:44

Just what I was thinking Ana, while I was listening to it.

merlotgran Mon 05-Jan-15 13:30:50

Thanks, when. I was beginning to think my fuzzy, cold filled brain had imagined it.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 13:40:16

Just posted on another thread but will copy and paste beneath. Essentially no issue in discussing the story but (as you will see with all other media including papers, BBC etc) it needs to be done in a way that does not imply guilt (either way) until legal proceedings are completed.

No shut down. Simply that as there's legal proceedings going on we've been advised to remove any posts which imply guilt towards any party.

The thread we took down simply wouldn't have made sense if we had started removing posts, so the best thing in that particular instance was to remove it. As was stated on that thread (by various gransnetters), necessary caution is being observed by all media so if you do wish to discuss this story best to bear this in mind and avoid posting comments which imply guilt until things have come to a conclusion.

whitewave Mon 05-Jan-15 13:45:21

Please see my reply on other post.

anniezzz09 Mon 05-Jan-15 13:59:07

gosh, I think my earlier post has been deleted.....George Orwell, you would understand the 21st century!!

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 14:03:35

Nothing has been deleted since one thread late last night smile

and update is that we (along with MN) have been able to clarify the situation further and the long and the short of it is post away (but please be mindful of anything that may have legal implications or contravenes our guidelines in any other way.)

whitewave Mon 05-Jan-15 14:06:12

Go on, admit it, you panicked.

Brendawymms Mon 05-Jan-15 14:21:31

I agree that even George Orwell wouldn't have credited it. Free speech is dead.

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 14:26:49

Honestly - we didn't grin

But (it now being Monday when people are actually around) we have had a chance to clarify further and hopefully that will make life better for everyone. Now where's my wine

granjura Mon 05-Jan-15 14:52:47

Blimey- I can't believe it!

thatbags Mon 05-Jan-15 15:13:06

Just for the record, cari, I saw the post on the thread saying why it would be deleted and that seemed fine to me. I had noticed some 'assumptions' too. Nobody blethers on about feee speech as much as I do on here but I understood the need to delete that thread because, as people never fail to remind me, free speech doesn't mean you can say just anything on any subject. There are limits and innocent until proven guilty is one of the limits, or lines, that shouldn't be crossed. It had been on that thread, if only by implication.

A thought for future reference: would it be possible for Tech to arrange it so that when a thread gets deleted the reason stays visible for twenty-four hours? People might not moan so much then hmm

CariGransnet (GNHQ) Mon 05-Jan-15 15:40:48

V good idea bags - and we have asked but so far it's not possible sad

As you say - we are all grown ups and we're as much for free speech as anyone else - hence the fact there are very few rules on the forum. But libel (of anyone - not just the rich and famous) is libel and that's very definitely something to steer clear of

soontobe Mon 05-Jan-15 15:47:10

So if I say on here that someone I know is a thief when they are not, and then they decide to sue me, where does that leave gransnet?
{I havent done this by the way!]
They have to go back and remove the posts?

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:52:39

I think we have done this to death now haven't we? All is clear. All is well.

(Scatters fairy dust to be sure)

smile

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:52:41

Cari, it may not be possible to leave the deleted thread with the reason for its removal up for 24 hours, but surely GNHQ could post the reason for its deletion somewhere?

There could be a designated 'Deleted Threads' thread...

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:53:17

I'm taking my decs down. Really slowly. hmm

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:24

I'm trying to be helpful, here jingl...hmm

jinglbellsfrocks Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:44

Of flip me! Leave off! hmm

Ana Mon 05-Jan-15 15:54:51

Where did that comma come from? confused