Re passport - fairlly urgent.

I hope that gives you peace of mind. You can always prove that you once had it and had to give it away -or it was taken away. Lets hope not.

I have copied it.

It's an idea if other things fail!

If you don't want to give it to the social worker could you arrange to pass it on to him through the school? I do hope you can successfully re-establish a relationship with him. It sounds a nightmare for you. Hope all goes well.

I think brother C will be in touch, though how he will be with me I don't know.
Copy, good idea. Will do that this morning.

If he is going to Germany he should have his passport himself and eventually give it to the teacher - someone must be accompanying him on this trip. He will need it in his hand when he passes through at the airport. If he is going by coach he may not be asked to show it ( open borders and all that we have heard enough of!)
Whatever you do make a copy of it! You can copy it on a modern printer or at a copy shop. Copy the details of every page and file the paper(s) away in safe place.

Crossing my fingers here.

Alie
acorns and oaks I hope

Glad to hear about the text, alie.

Jalima I will say these things, but slowly...softly softly, not to rush him.

As soon as auntie L left with baby, I heard from the social worker again and she said I may hear from C, the third brother and she has told him I will be in Oxford tomorrow....

THEN - I got a friendly text from my 15-year-old! The first time I have heard from him in ages. Mainly wanting some details from the passport for a form, but ending with love.
It's like a spoonful of water in the desert....

You could put a nice little note in with the passport, saying how much you would like to see him, and hoping he has a great trip.

Thanks for comments folks.
I'm now expecting my youngest grandson, 18 months, and his auntie!

Yes, bossy in a very sneaky way. And no help to me.
Giving it to her is of course her easy way out of one bit of a very complicated situation.

I haven't seen the 15yearold since November, and that's very upsetting.Apparently he is unwilling to see me. I don't know what he is thinking at all.

Done.

The only reason I can imagine the social worker wanting it is to hand it to your grandson if he is unable or unwilling to get it from you. Unless you and he are not on speaking terms, or you live too far away, the hand-over can be direct. This woman sounds as though she wants to be the kingpin and have her finger in every contact between you and him. Bossy besom!

(Actually the reason I had it in the first place was that his birth father might have taken him abroad. I think he is now out of the picture.)

I am about to tell the other two brothers (have no number for the oldest one)that I will hand the passport over to my grandson or any of the brothers.
That's getting in before the social worker meets the third bro this afternoon.

I said to social worker that I think I am only legally obliged to give it to my grandson. He is due to go on a trip to Germany .
Man with parental responsibility (K, for those who have seen my previous posts on the family) has had a nervous breakdown and is only sometimes in touch.
Grandson is staying with his third brother.

I see no reason for the social workr to have it. Even your grandson won't need to have it unless he is planning to travel somewhere, and he can ask for it then.

Does the social worker imagine that you are likely to do a bunk abroad with him? She sounds pretty stupid (or controlling!)

I would hand it to his legal guardian if requested, otherwise hold on to until he is 18 if not required before then.

If he is not a ward of court or in the care of the LA I see no reason why a social worker should have it.

The social worker (who I do not like or trust) wants me to give it to her.
I have texted my grandson that I will give it to him or any of his brothers....they have all been completely out of contact and none of them have asked me directly ever.

The urgency does sound as though someone has asked for it and AlieOxon is not sure whether to hand it over.

Has anyone asked for it? If not, maybe just carry on looking after it.