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Thoughts and advice pls on trusted cleaner stealing money

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NickyD47 Fri 18-Nov-16 10:29:12

My DS & DIL have discovered their cleaner has been stealing money from them. About £600. They checked before and after she came yesterday and another £100 had gone. They are so sad, as she has a daughter at home in Rumania and they have recommended her to several friends who she now works for too. I think they must go to the police but my DIL feels they should tell her they know, warn their friends and ask if she can pay it back. But I, my DH & son say what about those she might work for in the future? And what if she just Denies it. Tricky moral situation. Welcome some advice.

trisher Fri 18-Nov-16 10:36:53

If they are absolutely certain that she has done it they should try to find some method of proving it and tell the police and their friends. You call her a "trusted cleaner" she isn't she is a thief. If she gets away with it she will do it again. There are many cleaners out there who do great jobs and are honest, this woman is giving them all a bad name. The daughter in Romania isn't a reason to steal.

Lillie Fri 18-Nov-16 10:53:18

There are a few questions to answer first ..... Do they always leave large amounts of cash in the same place for her to know where to look? Or does she go rummaging? Does she work for an agency or do they empoy her privatley? Is she the only person who comes to the house? And dare I say it, make sure other family members (teenagers?) aren't helping themselves. If they are convinced she is the culprit then I think you son should ask her outright.

BlueBelle Fri 18-Nov-16 11:05:53

Gosh are they completely sure it is her it would be awful to blame the wrong person
I wonder why they have hundreds of pounds in the house
My aunt had a trusted carer who she looked upon as the daughter she never had we had no reason to doubt her at all we were glad my aunt had a good caring person going in When my aunt had an accident and was taken to hospital my Dad her brother visited her as she was in pain he went to the charge nurse to discuss pain relief to be told they couldn't discuss it as he wasn't next of kin when pressed we found the carer had put herself down as next of kin. My aunt died soon afterwards and it was only then we found she was on benefits and housing help although my uncle who had died not long before had left her more than enough to last her out After some digging we found out this carer had had over £16000 and this was about 20 years ago so a lot of money then they, her and her family had been on holiday abroad and bought a new car We saw a solicitor and reported it to the police and agency but when questioned she said my aunt looked on her as a daughter and had been giving her presents There was no one could prove anything different so nothing was done it broke my dads heart

NickyD47 Fri 18-Nov-16 11:19:05

Definitely sure she took it. The money had been at the back of a drawer for several weeks ready to pay an electrician. They hadn't checked it for several weeks. Yesterday morning they checked the amount before the cleaner arrived and my DIL popped out. When she returned the cleaner had left and so had £100. She must have been taking sums over the last weeks. My son is buying a camera to set up and hopefully prove without doubt so she can't deny it. She comes on Thursdays. I've said he should have witnesses when he accuses her.

Jane10 Fri 18-Nov-16 11:35:01

Gosh what an awful situation. If she is the one taking it she must know she's going to be found out. Nobody could casually miss £600.

Granarchist Fri 18-Nov-16 11:39:42

cctv / webcam - the only answer. Then you have proof positive - after that its up to you. Involve police and she will be prosecuted with that evidence. Your choice. You will then have to tell everyone what has happened. I doubt you will see your money back but you must prevent her doing this to other people.

Luckygirl Fri 18-Nov-16 11:50:37

Something similar happened to friends of mine - in this case it was a builder's mate during house renovations. They left her handbag in the kitchen and set up their camera set to video. He was caught red-handed.

Take the evidence to the police.

This lass must be a bit dim to think you would not notice that amount of money going missing. She would have done better to go for a tenner at a time. Silly girl.

thatbags Fri 18-Nov-16 12:24:37

Trusted?! They need to stop trusting her not to steal money.

Why do they have so much cash in the house and in places from which it can be stolen?

Obviously she shouldn't be stealing it but it'd help if they didn't make it easy for her!

Flossieturner Fri 18-Nov-16 12:28:39

Because they have no actual proof, they should just tell her she is no longer required. They could tell their friends of their suspicion. If others let her go she will probably guess why and maybe reform.

aggie Fri 18-Nov-16 12:53:44

Better get proof and get her stopped rather than dismiss her to do the same to other trusting people !

aggie Fri 18-Nov-16 12:55:38

The back of a drawer is not like leaving it in a handbag on the table , she must have been rummaging

Thingmajig Fri 18-Nov-16 13:05:29

My parents had a similar situation with their gardener a few years ago. The odd £20 missing from Mum's purse after he'd been ... luckily she didn't keep a lot of cash in the house. He had done the garden for quite some time before the cash started going missing.

Again, they didn't want the police involved, but my brother did call them out as the chap no doubt did many more gardens around the town.
Turns out he was know to the police for previous thefts, so he was just reverting to type.

It's an awkward situation but for the sake of her other employers I think the police should be involved.

TriciaF Fri 18-Nov-16 13:13:04

We once had a cleaner who took some money out of husband's jacket pocket, which was hanging in the hall. Just drawn from the bank to pay a builder.
At least , we think it was her, she never came back after that.
Since then we never have cash in the house, unless it's on our person somewhere.
"Don't put a stumbling block in front of a blind man."

TriciaF Fri 18-Nov-16 13:14:51

ps as to what to do, I agree with Flossieturner - tell her she's not needed any more.

aggie Fri 18-Nov-16 14:00:00

I never Kept money in the house , bar a few notes in my purse , but now that I don't get out as much I have to have some cash handy , the GC do "messages" for me and I need it for them . The big bugbear is where to keep it ! Said GC now know where it is and I have to find somewhere else , no point in leaving temptation there for anyone hmm

kittylester Fri 18-Nov-16 14:41:04

It's not much help but my Nana used to keep money in her, extremely large, bra. Or under the carpet - different corners for different things eg gas, rates, electicity etc.

I couldn't have her in the house again so I would be tempted to tell her that she is no longer needed and tell the friends to whom they recommended her what has been going on.

There is little to be gained from involving the police - it would be huge amounts of aggro and with no money back. If they sack her so suddenly, she will realise they are on to her. And, of course no references would be forthcoming.

FarNorth Fri 18-Nov-16 14:50:32

aggie, could you have some money ready, if you are going to need it for the GCs? Or keep a smaller amount handy to dip into, and most of it somewhere else?

aggie Fri 18-Nov-16 14:52:30

Thanks at North , I do keep some in my purse and most in a tin somewhere smile

BlueBelle Fri 18-Nov-16 15:04:06

If daughter in law popped out there were others in the house?

Anya Fri 18-Nov-16 16:47:31

Get your proof and then confront her.

f77ms Fri 18-Nov-16 16:55:56

They really need proof before accusing her , web cam is a good idea . I would never accuse anyone unless I had absolute proof first , is there anyone else in the house ie teenagers and their friends? . They could never be really sure unless they had web cam proof , I have heard of a family member taking money after they had developed a `problem` and blaming it on the cleaner .

NickyD47 Fri 18-Nov-16 17:01:58

No one else in house, no teenagers, just small children at nursery.

Rigby46 Fri 18-Nov-16 20:25:26

I honestly don't think I could set up the web cam and involve the police.. I'd just sack her and warn my friends. BTW the original sum of money probably wouldn't have been covered by insurance if someone had broken in. I'm nit remotely victim blaming but I'd never have that sum of money in my house and certainly not for several weeks

vampirequeen Fri 18-Nov-16 20:59:47

Definitely use a webcam. Even if they're sure it's her they can't prove it. If they can get her on film then they can put it in the hands of the police.