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midgey Mon 29-Jan-18 18:57:29

Not quite sure where to put this.
I have just heard on the news that all PIP receivers are to be reviewed after a legal case. I am not sure that I am strong enough to go through the whole hoo hah once again. I understand that the whole thing has been very unjust and some terrible things have happened particularly to people with mental health issues, but why start again?

durhamjen Sat 10-Feb-18 20:18:49

www.disabilitynewsservice.com/the-pip-files-dwp-documents-show-absolutely-shocking-failure-on-further-evidence/

I wonder how many people have died because of this.

durhamjen Sat 10-Feb-18 21:13:59

Another sickening story. How ill does this poor man have to be?

www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/pip-atos-dla-dwp-benefits-14268248

durhamjen Sun 11-Feb-18 18:19:41

voxpoliticalonline.com/2018/02/11/stephen-fry-and-alex-brooker-explain-why-the-tories-screwed-up-pip-so-badly/

maryeliza54 Sun 11-Feb-18 18:33:31

The Select Committee report into PIP and ESA is to be published this week. They had over 4000 individual responses and were so moved by them that they are very exceptionally publishing them in a separate volume. Perhaps the comment that takes the biscuit is this

Assessor to claimant with Downs Syndrome ‘ When did you catch it?

My guess is that this report will be a dreadful indictment of the current system - watch for all the dead cats that will be thrown on the table that day no doubt led by Boris

durhamjen Tue 13-Feb-18 19:38:27

Looking forward to McVey's response to this.

dpac.uk.net/2018/02/esther-mcvey-lies-again-and-to-work-and-pensions-committee/

durhamjen Tue 13-Feb-18 23:35:47

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/02/13/dwp-spent-100m-on-disability-benefit-appeals-over-2-year-period/

Disgusted that they have spent all this money trying to stop people having benefits to which they are entitled.

durhamjen Wed 14-Feb-18 15:19:16

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/02/14/frank-fields-letter-regarding-the-dwps-non-existent-existent-data-a-schrodinger-kind-of-paradox/

The science of PIP.

durhamjen Wed 14-Feb-18 23:38:19

www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/other/their-cute-ad-is-the-tip-of-the-iceberg-this-is-how-the-dwp-damages-real-relationships

Beautiful ad by DWP.
Happy Valentine's Day!

durhamjen Thu 15-Feb-18 22:22:06

I wish I could say I find this hard to believe. Not one target met.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/02/15/the-pip-esa-inquiry-report-from-the-work-and-pensions-select-committee-main-recommendations/

durhamjen Sat 17-Feb-18 11:38:56

The government still wants to punish people, despite saying sanctions were wrong. Just cruel.

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/02/16/84344/

HAZBEEN Sat 17-Feb-18 15:46:20

This my first time of posting. I have been following this thread as my Grandson (who had turned 16) was refused PIP after getting DLA last July. He is Autistic. The assessor wrote " interacted with assessor and showed no signs of distress". In fact he cannot look people in the eye, will not speak to anyone outside the family and was so distressed in the waiting room they got him a taxi home authorised by the assessor! My daughter appealed after he was again refused on reconsideration and has received a date for next month. One problem we faced was that he had no support in place, was home educated (after servere bullying problems) although he now has a Counsellor and a Support Worker who visits him at home. As his SW said "He has slipped under the radar". Due to the loss of benefit my daughter lost her Carers allowance, Disabled Child tax credits and premium as well as his DLA, so now she is having to claim Job Seekers Allowance and staff at the Job Centre are not taking any notice of the fact she cant work long hours or miles away and needs to be near home in case she has to get back quickly. If she did what they say she would have to leave him alone in the house or pay more than she could possibly afford for carers who he would probably not be able to cope with. It sums it up when he heard that they had refused his claim he said " so I am worthless arent I. I wish I was dead"

durhamjen Sat 17-Feb-18 15:57:06

That's my grandson, HAZBEEN.
He will be 16 next month, and I have been his main home tutor since he couldn't cope with a large academy school, although he was okay in the primary.
His parents get DLA for him, so they have got the PIP stuff to come.
I asked him last month about going on a bus, and the only time he does is with me, on the park and ride, so he was saying about catching the P&R 1. I asked him how he was going to get to the Park & Ride, and he said I'd have to take him like I always did.
I don't think he gets it.

HAZBEEN Sat 17-Feb-18 16:08:57

Yes my GS wont go out alone his mum must be with him. She is a single parent always has been and I live 300 miles away so a lot of my support is on the phone. Even when I do get to visit it can be upsetting for him to have another person in the house as it affects his routine. When he had his assessment appointment she asked for a home visit or at least a taxi but was refused both. It took him almost a week to settle down again after the appointment he was so upset. My daughter was so worried as he has a history of self harming but luckily he came through it until the decision letter came.

durhamjen Sat 17-Feb-18 16:23:00

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/02/17/pip-assessment-traffic-could-cost-your-award/

He should have had a home visit, if you read the government response on this link, HAZBEEN.

vampirequeen Sat 17-Feb-18 16:30:01

They told me that they don't do home visits unless you can't get out of bed. Everyone else has to attend an centre. I have agoraphobia but it made no difference. I got there but had a major panic attack so couldn't answer any questions. I must have had the only nice assessors in the system because she not only brought in a second assessor who was equally kind but phoned someone and complained that I should never have been forced to attend. They didn't ask me any questions because they said it was obvious how ill I was and said they would report accordingly but couldn't guarantee that I'd get PIP because sometimes their recommendations are ignored by some unknown face behind a desk. I was lucky and got PIP but I don't trust them not to try to take it back.

HAZBEEN Sat 17-Feb-18 16:32:34

You know that, I know that, the world knows that but THEY say not! I am dreading the appeal hearing, the thought of him going through having to face strange people again asking him questions which he cant answer breaks my heart. We are trying to get more evidence and statements together to send in hopefully they will reverse the first decision.

HAZBEEN Sat 17-Feb-18 16:38:00

Sorry Vampirequeen my last post was a reply to Durhamjen and I missed your post. I am also disabled (Osteoarthritis, heart problems, depression etc. etc.) and had a home assessment. I got my PIP including mobility. My assessor was a District Nurse so understood some of my issues but my GS assessor wouldnt say what her qualifications were and was rather abrupt.

HAZBEEN Sat 17-Feb-18 16:39:50

Getting a home assessment seems to depend on where you live. In my area a lot have been given home visits but in the North East it seems harder to get one.

Galen Sat 17-Feb-18 16:43:08

If you need to go to a tribunal but can’t attend, you can always ask for a telephone hearing.

durhamjen Thu 01-Mar-18 00:41:27

I have just come across this website.

leftyinabusinessschool.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/universal-credit-2/

Brilliant for anyone trying to apply for benefits, and for anyone who wonders what all the fuss is about.
He documents everything, step by step.

durhamjen Tue 06-Mar-18 10:11:33

I thought the whole point of the new benefits system was to encourage disabled people to get into work.
Yet 75,000 of them have had their motability cars taken away from them.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/tory-benefit-shake-up-forced-12132615

durhamjen Thu 08-Mar-18 09:47:16

The person who did this assessment should be sacked.

metro.co.uk/2018/03/07/woman-with-epilepsy-so-severe-she-set-herself-on-fire-sees-benefits-removed-7322696/

durhamjen Tue 20-Mar-18 19:41:31

kittysjones.wordpress.com/2018/03/20/grieving-daughter-handed-her-mothers-ashes-to-esa-assessor-to-prove-she-wasnt-fit-for-work/

This person should be sacked, too.