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Doodledog Fri 18-Mar-22 11:32:49

Careful, Hithere. Posts have been deleted for far less than accusing people of transphobia.

Galaxy Fri 18-Mar-22 11:31:43

Its just impossoble for some people to acknowledge male violence. Its perfectly understable but not helpful. A man raped a woman. Thats what happened. No need for change in terminology and no need to further abuse a victim by forcing her to pretend that she was raped by a woman.

Hithere Fri 18-Mar-22 11:29:51

What gagajo said.

People pick their professions, trans or not

Transphobia in this board is off the charts

GrannyGravy13 Fri 18-Mar-22 11:28:43

Exactly Galaxy

Phobia/Phobe/Phobic these are all used against women when they try to point out that putting on a dress, calling yourself Suzie (apologies to all Suzies out there) and IDing as a woman whilst having a penis and testicles does not make you a woman and never will…

Galaxy Fri 18-Mar-22 11:24:32

Men commit 97 % of violent sexual assaults. If someone told me that I had been raped by a woman after Ihad been raped by a man I would consider that further abuse.

GagaJo Fri 18-Mar-22 11:21:58

OR we could support a change in terminology. Anyone is capable of rape. Then anyone can be considered a threat, regardless of genitalia or the clothes they're wearing.

Would have stopped the shocking response of the hospital in its tracks and everyone on duty on that day could have been questioned by the police.

Chewbacca Fri 18-Mar-22 11:17:31

What that poor woman went through is disgraceful. Bad enough that she was raped and violate in the supposed safety of a hospital ward, but she was disbelieved and accused of being a liar, was brought to the edge of a breakdown and was gaslighted that she must have imagined it all. It took the NHS Trust a whole year to admit that it was true, despite the fact that they had checked their cctv and had the evidence right there.

But this couldn't happen could it? A male, with a penis, dressed, presenting, and accepted as a woman, couldn't/wouldn't harm a vulnerable woman would he? So let's allow them in more of our safe spaces. It'll be fine. angry

GrannyGravy13 Fri 18-Mar-22 11:04:49

I agree with you on this Gagajo it’s possible to violate/rape with objects.

I understand that U.K. law only classes a sexual assault as rape if the victim has been been penetrated by a penis.

GagaJo Fri 18-Mar-22 11:01:50

Surely what is really needed is a change in the terminology? Because clearly, women regardless of their genitalia, are capable of rape. Rape as a 'specialised' crime that must involve a penis is ludicrous. As if a penis is the only thing that is capable of violating someone, internally.

It's yet another example of the exaggeration of the male sex organ. There are many ways to assault someone sexually that are not limited to being violated with a penis and to label them as 'lesser' because a penis wasn't involved is ridiculous.

And yes, in this case, this information should have immediately been made available. I would say it was a deliberate attempt by the hospital to protect the rapist and should be a chargeable offense.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 18-Mar-22 10:53:42

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Ilovecheese Fri 18-Mar-22 09:34:35

Isn't this one of the things that were never going to happen.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 18-Mar-22 09:15:49

The poor woman, having to wait a year for confirmation that there was a male on the ward.
A terrifying ordeal made worse due to gender politics

Katie59 Fri 18-Mar-22 09:01:04

Unbelievable a woman raped in hospital, police told not possible as all nurses on duty were female.

web.archive.org/web/20220317203204/https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/03/17/hospital-told-police-patient-not-raped-alleged-attacker-transgender/