Benefits: DWP announcement for PIP review claimants

All of the staff I dealt with at the dwp told me that the sole intention is to get "people" off benefits and out to work these days.

I know pip is separate, but, it's probably the same agenda behind it.

Cabbie21

I have just been supporting a man who in 2020 was awarded PIP on appeal to Tribunal, yet has received a review form to complete. What a colossal waste of money, time, and so stress- inducing. The system needs an overhaul.

PIP was the overhaul
something must have been lost in translation somewhere

the fraud rate for DLA before PIP was introduced was less than 0.5% I imagine it is still the same. They require so much information and back up from specialists, how could it be made up etc? It is ludicrous a private company has been wasting so much money for so long

Helenlouise3

My daughter has long covid and hasn't worked (nurse) for almost 2 years. She filled in all the forms for pip but was refused. It makes me mad when I see people claiming it, that definitely shouldn't be.

Please get her to appeal using one of the Charities who deal with this sort of thing to help her get the maximum points. If that doesn't work, go to tribunal. The majority of cases that go to a tribunal are awarded PIP.

vampirequeen

Does this mean that all of us who have already completed our review form are reprieved for another year? I had to fill out my review form in April. The letter said in no uncertain terms that it had to be returned by a certain date and what would happen if I didn't. I duly sent my form off by the due date and haven't even received an acknowledge. I have been in limbo ever since. I feel sick each day until the postman has been just in case that's the day I find they have decided that I've recovered from an illness that I won't recover from. The stress of a PIP review is overwhelming.

I have been following a group who deal with PIP and other benefits. What those who have been re-assessed recently have said is that you still need to complete the form in the same period you would have done. It seems the extra time is so they can complete, and you will carry on with what you were getting until they do. They are basically allowing themselves the 12 months.

This is just from reading what has been happening to people so please don't think it's gospel. Having said that, I think you will be in the least jeopardy of losing anything if you work on that basis.

I worked full time for a while. I couldn't have managed without help.

yellowcanary

Su22

Good news for the genuine claimants but I know of two people that claim it and no way they should get it, one of them hasn't worked for years due to a bad back but manages to do cash-in-hand building jobs and another manages to do various cash-in-hand cleaning jobs.

SU22 didn't say anything about properly employed people claiming PIP, she was saying about people who don't work claiming benefits for supposedly NOT being able to work due to ill-health getting PIP then doing cash in hand work.

At least that is the way I am reading it.

PIP isn't an unemployment benefit. I know somebody who is very severely disabled and needs somebody to help him dress and was, etc but has a wheelchair and is able to work.

PIP questionnaire doesn't allow for certain illnesses. Also assessors have actually been known to lie about what they have been told by claimants.
The system stinks.

My very ill brother had to go to tribunal. My sister appeared for him as he was too ill. He died a short time after.

If you are claiming, don't do it without help from someone like CAB, or Disability Action.

Is she appealing the decision?

It is sickening when some people are perhaps milking the system, but all the more reason to appeal your own case, I think.

My daughter has long covid and hasn't worked (nurse) for almost 2 years. She filled in all the forms for pip but was refused. It makes me mad when I see people claiming it, that definitely shouldn't be.

Yellowcanary people may not be able to work full time due tonillness/incapacity but can manage some work.
SU22 doesnt know the exact circumstances.
There will always be those who work the system.

I have just been supporting a man who in 2020 was awarded PIP on appeal to Tribunal, yet has received a review form to complete. What a colossal waste of money, time, and so stress- inducing. The system needs an overhaul.

I guess there are people who find loopholes or deliberately make fraudulent claims, especially those who receive cash in hand, so no trace for DWP/ HMRC , but it is estimated that fraud accounts for a tiny fraction, compared with genuine claimants who are turned down.
I made a point above about Employment not being a barrier for PIP just to clarify, though if what you do contradicts your reasons for claiming PIP, it will be questioned.

Su22

Good news for the genuine claimants but I know of two people that claim it and no way they should get it, one of them hasn't worked for years due to a bad back but manages to do cash-in-hand building jobs and another manages to do various cash-in-hand cleaning jobs.

SU22 didn't say anything about properly employed people claiming PIP, she was saying about people who don't work claiming benefits for supposedly NOT being able to work due to ill-health getting PIP then doing cash in hand work.

At least that is the way I am reading it.

It's anxiety inducing just to read this, and I have only just claimed pip.

I'm not even an anxious person, ordinarily.

I really feel for people whose main issues are with their mental health who have to go through this.

nadateturbe

It was designed to cut payments. Different questions to former DLA system.

What I don't understand is how you can have a congenital condition which is never going to get any better but they will still withdraw PIP. My daughter has got to the end of her treatment path but still suffers. She has been told there is not much else they can do but her lack of treatment allows her to be targeted for removal. The system absolutely stinks.
It isn't only her that is going through this either. There are loads of people with the same problems who are picked upon.

It was designed to cut payments. Different questions to former DLA system.

vampirequeen

I read the link but I'm still not sure whether I'm going to be left alone for another year or they're just torturing me for the hell of it.

It is a poor system targeting the vulnerable. I hate it.

I'll keep looking and see if I can find out how the charities, etc., have interpreted the announcement, vampirequeen

I read the link but I'm still not sure whether I'm going to be left alone for another year or they're just torturing me for the hell of it.

Sorry, I used the wrong thread. I've found out the HHS thing's a scam.

How odd. My daughter had to go to Tribunal to have her PIP returned to her which was a long, stressful process which took nearly 12 months. Until they did she was without transport so housebound and although she had the return of her deposit, the extras she'd paid for in adaptations, she lost. They awarded the PIP back from the date she had appealed and it was for three years. Now, a year after she got it awarded back, she has been sent another renewal form. They have always done this and it means that her PIP has only ever lasted for just over 2 years rather than the 3 she is awarded each time. It is really stressful and, as anxiety is high on her list of problems, really unhelpful.

There are more details about contacting people if you click on the link in my OP vampirequeen. They may clarify the process.

I'm not sure it does vampirequeen.
I do sympathise. Its extremely stressful. I stopped claiming. I just asked for the Blue Badge.
I think you need to contact the department.
Good luck.

The DWP is a government department Boheminan. I very much doubt an American company will bear any similarity.