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Power of attorney query

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Maybelline1234 Thu 27-Apr-23 10:16:15

Hi everyone…any advice welcome.

My dad has just gone to a care home suddenly. He has made a will but no power of attorney ever [POA]? Has lost mental capacity and will not regain. Elderly and frail. Unsure how long he has left. He shared until 6 weeks ago and still legally owns, half a house with his brother who still lives there. Latter have joint bill bank account together but everything else is separate. My dads brother cannot access any of his brothers funds now legally. My dads bank savings is over the £23k amount so this money will provide self funding care fees for about a year. A social worker is allocated but is yet to assess and I’m awaiting contact. I’m as son down as next of kin.. I understand the process of a financial assessment needs to be done and the deferred payments option on the house etc. The main equity is in the house which my dad and her brother share. The care home are asking me to sign forms as I’m NOK and be a guarantor for the fees which I absolutely do not want to do. I have no bank funds to draw on currently at the level of £5 k a month , the care fee, and don’t want to do this even if I could claim bank later as I have my own house and mortgage. My uncle will not go for POA as simply doesn’t want to be involved. My uncle plans to await my dads death and then will sell the home as the will dictates he can do and then only on his death will my dads half of the house be free for inheritance to his grandchildren. Of course if a deferred payment is in place a lot of this will have gone on in care fees. So my question is if neither my uncle nor myself wants POA what will happen. Just to say I’m a trustee of a child’s inner and so have done that for years hence not wanting to take on any more. My uncle states they have taken legal advice and POA is costly and takes more than a year hence them not doing it. Nil was set up re LPA pre my dad losing capacity. Cant believe this is happening. So stressed by it all. I did try to influence my dad when he was CM but he told me not to interfere. My uncle does t want to talk anything legal with me.

Thanks for listening. All advice welcome.

Moonwatcher1904 Fri 12-May-23 15:37:09

It is quite costly Germanshepherdsmum but it can be a costly nightmare for remaining relatives if it's not done. I wouldn't have been happy for my daughter to be left with any problems.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-May-23 15:41:21

Indeed. It takes a while for registration to be completed and in the meantime there is no access to the donor’s money or official status to dictate the health care they would or wouldn’t want.

GrannyGravy13 Fri 12-May-23 15:57:23

Germanshepherdsmum

No, sorry, I meant GG, whose post was the latest when I was writing. A solicitor will always advise doing it straight away, but perhaps sometimes people do them online and don’t follow through to registration as it’s an extra cost - I don’t know as we too used a solicitor.

Just waiting for the paperwork and the registration due date then they will be complete.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-May-23 16:52:52

It takes a while as I recall!

Primrose53 Fri 12-May-23 19:56:31

I read just yesterday that POAs are now taking up to 1,000 days to process and in some cases people have sadly passed away before they are approved.

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-May-23 19:59:17

Is that when you apply online or when your solicitor sends it off for registration? Where did you read it?

Primrose53 Fri 12-May-23 20:28:20

Germanshepherdsmum

Is that when you apply online or when your solicitor sends it off for registration? Where did you read it?

Here you go GSM

www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-12064321/The-families-waiting-1-000-days-power-attorney.html

Germanshepherdsmum Fri 12-May-23 20:52:05

That says average waiting time is 91 days and one family waited 983 working days - we don’t know why but it’s a fair guess that there were mistakes in the application. Do it through a solicitor to minimise the chances of making mistakes and apply for registration straight away,

Primrose53 Sat 13-May-23 11:24:49

Germanshepherdsmum

That says average waiting time is 91 days and one family waited 983 working days - we don’t know why but it’s a fair guess that there were mistakes in the application. Do it through a solicitor to minimise the chances of making mistakes and apply for registration straight away,

But it also says the Probate Registry lost a solicitor’s forms so it seems there is not much you can do once it has left your or the solicitor’s hands.

Germanshepherdsmum Sat 13-May-23 13:11:58

This is true, if a paper system is used.