It's Insulting The Way Pensioners Are Being Grovelled Over.

They need our votes - I have no doubt some elderly can be bribed - of course it won’t happen just as the 40 hospitals didn’t happen, levelling up didn’t happen, Rwanda didn’t happen, lower immigration didn’t happen, lower NHS waiting lists didn’t happen, and on and on.

mae13
Your comments chime with a lot of what I’m reading including on this forum.So many are turned off politics, don’t know who to vote for, are politically homeless.Much more than usual.
Even tho Labour is way ahead in the polls it’s almost anyones guess what will actually happen on the day.

I treat attempts to buy my vote with utter contempt and reduces the probability of my voting for the party that sinks to such lows.

I think it should be law that everyone eligible has to vote so that at least a true picture of the country’s wishes is arrived at.
I believe this is the law in Australia?? Perhaps someone in Aus can correct me?

I shuddered when I saw that announcement. If they want to raise the tax threshold to benefit the lower paid all well and good, but there’s no need to say it’s to benefit pensioners. We already get enough criticism for being ‘a drain on the state and the workers’.

Sunak seems to be grasping at straws. It doesn't impress me. He is desperately trying to bribe pensioners to vote Tory.

Re Sunak "big announcement"

I think all very low income citizens should be protected tax wise.
Labour have to date committed the triple lock for 5 years ie the max length to the next general election. Realistically, thats as far as a "promise" can stand.

Pensioners managing on their state pension only even under triple lock will always fall under the tax threshold.

There are a number of additional benefits some pensioners can claim (including winter heating, pension credit, ) already - we need to hear about these too before "doing the sums"
www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/money-legal/benefits-entitlements/

We have had so many posters complaining that the tax threshold hasn’t been raised and as a consequence they are paying tax on their pension income. Now that they will receive an allowance to ensure that they don’t pay tax on their SP, they complain and say they are being insulted and grovelled over. You couldn’t make it up.

Well I think it's a great idea and am pleased that at last pensioners have been mentioned instead of "working families" all the time (not that I'm against them being helped with the cost of living too). Grovel away! I'm not insulted.

I think it's a good idea we've paid our tax dues all our life, well the ones who worked did. A vote winner if you are a pensioner and pay tax.

I just feel that announcing it now is clearly an "election gambit". GSM - if its key policy it could have been announced in the budget

I suspect we are in for a carefully calculated "announcement" every 4 to 5 days now designed to appeal to traditional conservative voters and hold the headlines.

Wyllow3

I just feel that announcing it now is clearly an "election gambit". GSM - if its key policy it could have been announced in the budget

I suspect we are in for a carefully calculated "announcement" every 4 to 5 days now designed to appeal to traditional conservative voters and hold the headlines.

Getting worried are you?

Sparklefizz

I think it should be law that everyone eligible has to vote so that at least a true picture of the country’s wishes is arrived at.
I believe this is the law in Australia?? Perhaps someone in Aus can correct me?

Yes, it’s compulsory to vote in Australia.

No, its exactly what I expected.

So what if it’s only just been announced? It’s been announced and it’s good news.

Sparklefizz

I think it should be law that everyone eligible has to vote so that at least a true picture of the country’s wishes is arrived at.
I believe this is the law in Australia?? Perhaps someone in Aus can correct me?

Voting in a FPTP election doesn't reflect a true picture as people often vote tactically (as l am highly likely to do this time as it's the only way my vote has any weight).
I don't think charging fining people who don't want to vote is democratic.

Oreo

mae13
Your comments chime with a lot of what I’m reading including on this forum.So many are turned off politics, don’t know who to vote for, are politically homeless.Much more than usual.
Even tho Labour is way ahead in the polls it’s almost anyones guess what will actually happen on the day.

Sadly, I agree

Germanshepherdsmum

So what if it’s only just been announced? It’s been announced and it’s good news.

But it’s a scam and just out there because many many conservatives rely on the over 60 vote. Perhaps they should have looked after us better during Covid!

Raise the personal allowance for all, then we and low earners all benefit.

The whole system needs reform. People will fall for the hokum of paying less income tax. The tories know that the elderly won't be claiming as long as their predecessors because of the failing NHS.

It’s not a scam!

I was looked after perfectly well during covid, weren’t you?

Raising the personal allowance for everyone would be hugely expensive, and of course it would benefit very high earners too. Then it would be that thing politicians love to accuse one another of, an unfunded promise.

The tax threshold should be raised for everyone.I struggled financially much more when I was employed than I do now. I no longer have a mortgage to pay,no expenses getting to work and free public transport when I want to go out.

Any idea what that would cost? No, thought not.

I’m neither delighted or insulted by this proposal. I just feel it would be fairer all round if any change to the personal allowance applied to everyone.

We already have plenty of youngsters who’d be voting for the implementation of Logan’s Run at 60.

Why don’t people understand the cost of raising the personal allowance for everyone?