Rayner Will Not Rule Out Abolishing Council Tax Single Occupier Discount

Doodledog

Why do you think that pensioners should be exempt from the crippling costs that the last government has landed us with? Statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in,

Half of my friends who voted labour are now regretting it. Nothing in their manifesto to suggest all these cut backs. I agree HA should be means tested but pensioners may just be over the threshold for pension credit, now on about getting rid of the 25% council tax. If it’s not done this year, certainly will be done next year for sure 😩

Allira

David49

Single occupation discount probably needs to be limited to the lower value properties this would encourage more to down size sooner. It’s not going to be popular and just like WFA will affect pensioners a lot.

Build some suitable homes then!

Not you personally, David1949, unless you are a builder in our area!

But it's no good using sticks to punish older people to move, we need carrots in the form of decent, smaller properties.

Whats the motivation for this?

Some strange sort of " I told you so" I suppose?

Its horrible. I am really worried about winter.

David49

Single occupation discount probably needs to be limited to the lower value properties this would encourage more to down size sooner. It’s not going to be popular and just like WFA will affect pensioners a lot.

Build some suitable homes then!

Until the budget, any question raised of this kind, like bus passes and prescriptions too, are speculative, yet pages and pages have been taken up on these "supposing if's"prompted by hostile MSM rumours.

I can't help feel pensioners are paying for the cost of Brexit- let's face it most of them voted for it, thinking we would be going back to the 'good' old days.
Not me though, there were never any good old days.
Now we have to face up to the reality that Remainers warned about and no one listened to.
Someone has to pay and it may as well be us.

Single occupation discount probably needs to be limited to the lower value properties this would encourage more to down size sooner. It’s not going to be popular and just like WFA will affect pensioners a lot.

The wage increases to train drivers, etc., are a red herring. ???

The money has to come from somewhere, and there’s such a black big black hole . . .

The fact still remains, that Starmer condemned it under the previous government but finds it acceptable when he’s in power.

The issue is really about a marginal band of pensioners who are not eligible for pension credit (those who are should claim it) and not about all pensioners above the eligibility cut off. All mass policies affect people who are marginally ineligible. In this case the disadvantage to the marginal band is offset to some degree by the future rise in the State pension and the PM might offer some further mitigation but it would be a gross political mistake to U-turn. The wage increases to train drivers, etc., are a red herring.

Casdon

Shall we wait to see if this actually happens rather than raising anxiety by bigging up an urban myth?

We don’t know if it will happen, whether there will be any mitigating actions, when the implementation date might be if it does happen, whether it might apply to all age groups or exclude some - etc. etc. some people must be stressed with worry about things that may not happen, and Gransnet is fanning the flames, which is wrong.

Yet another speculative thread based on a scare story from the usual suspects (DT, DM), ahead of the actual budget. If you type the title of this thread GN comes up - yes, here we are stressing posters about something that may never happen, yet again. Whats the motivation for this?

Sensible post Cossy there's no point running around with our tails on fire till we know more.

We shouldn't have to resort to taking in lodgers to make ends meet foxie

MissAdventure

It's not you, grannygravy--it's the others--

That I am going to have on my Urn

It’s not me it’s the others!

Mae13
And what is your validated source for "statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in" please?
It said it on GN!🤣🤣🤣

I've no idea if the single person discount will disappear or not but when I was divorced and struggling financially I had a student lodger. It helped me and it helped him. My OH always had lodger when he was single to help with his mortgage and my daughter, who's a doctor, has always had a lodger, usually another doctor who is new to the area. We have a housing crisis, people need somewhere to live and you can get £7500 tax free to me it's a no brainer!

It's not you, grannygravy--it's the others--

Let’s all not panic. All changes need to go through both the HoC and the HoL.

Let’s hold fire and wait.

Wait for the votes and the October budget.

It’s such early days, it’s seems an awful start, but let’s have just a little patience.

I’ve not forgotten the damage the last 14 years of Tory rule caused and not just to the economy.

I’m going to expect the worst, but still hope for the best.

Early days.

Doodledog

Why do you think that pensioners should be exempt from the crippling costs that the last government has landed us with? Statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in,

I see you're NOT a pensioner but ARE a Telegraph reader!
And what is your validated source for "statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in" please?

Allsorts

Sorry should have been another forum.

I beg your pardon? (Not really)

MissAdventure

IF it happens.

Which is why I started my post withIf

Iam64

There’s also the Fact that money has to be found from somewhere to rebuild the country

Only if you believe in handbag economics

IF it happens.

Thank you GrannyGravy13 single parents will be affected too.

I suspect many of those who claim to be worried will not be affected in the slightest by these challenges. I suggest we go about our lives to the best of our abilities.

There’s also the Fact that money has to be found from somewhere to rebuild the country