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Rayner Will Not Rule Out Abolishing Council Tax Single Occupier Discount

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mae13 Mon 09-Sept-24 05:47:12

Maybe the current Labour administration should go the whole hog and simply abolish anyone age 66+.
Grabbing back the Winter Fuel Allowance, Personal Tax Allowance fixed until 2008 leading to many more pensioners facing Income Tax bills, and now they've got the Council Tax 25% discount for single occupancy households in their sights.

Same old, same old but much, much worse.

Thanks a lot Sir Keir.......

Doodledog Mon 09-Sept-24 05:55:39

Why do you think that pensioners should be exempt from the crippling costs that the last government has landed us with? Statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in,

Ashcombe Mon 09-Sept-24 06:27:03

A tough Winter for many but some good news on the horizon regarding pensions next Spring:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewlqxv0n1qo

Allsorts Mon 09-Sept-24 06:45:04

Whiff, only just seen your comments about your wobble concerning your holiday. I’m just the same, nervous at first. Make the most of whatever the day brings, in a week it will all be a memory you're making now. There are loads to do where you're going, plus lots of places you can have peace and quiet if you choose, including the lovely Minster, so relax, enjoy and treat yourself. Your husband would be very proud at how well you've made your life

Mollygo Mon 09-Sept-24 06:45:38

Ashcombe

A tough Winter for many but some good news on the horizon regarding pensions next Spring:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewlqxv0n1qo

Define
New state pension.
Who will get that amount ?
Who won’t get that amount.

Allsorts Mon 09-Sept-24 06:46:09

Sorry should have been another forum.

eazybee Mon 09-Sept-24 06:52:30

Part of the crippling costs this government says it is facing is the unwarranted 10 billion payout to train drivers and junior doctors. Pensioners cannot paralyse the country by industrial action so pose no threat. The pension increase of £400 next year will put many pensioners over their personal allowance thus making many more liable for tax.

Beckett Mon 09-Sept-24 07:23:35

Seems this government are targeting the poorest and most vulnerable in society. If they want to tackle the so called "black hole" they could start by stopping the £300+ PER DAY paid to those who turn up at the unelected House of Lords - if they all turned up that would be equal to approx. £250,000 per day.

I find it hard to accept that while taking the WFA from pensioners MPs are keeping their "energy" allowance for their second homes, also why do both HoC and HoL require subsidised restaurants and bars?

Seems the MPs don't have the "broad shoulders" that Starmer mentioned

Chocolatelovinggran Mon 09-Sept-24 07:41:29

Is this going to happen?

Ashcombe Mon 09-Sept-24 07:49:43

Mollygo

Ashcombe

A tough Winter for many but some good news on the horizon regarding pensions next Spring:-

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cewlqxv0n1qo

Define
New state pension.
Who will get that amount ?
Who won’t get that amount.

According to the article:-

“ The increase will take the full state pension for men who were born after 1951 and women born after 1953 to around £12,000 next year, after a £900 increase last year.

Pre-2016 retirees, who may have been eligible for a secondary state pension, are likely to see at least a £300 a year increase in the basic state pension to £9,000 in next year under the old system.”

GrannyGravy13 Mon 09-Sept-24 07:55:17

If Labour removes the single person Council Tax discount it is not just pensioners who will suffer.

It will also be penalising younger widows/widowers, divorced, and those that are single!

In my opinion Labour are perpetuating and increasing the gap between the have and have nots!

My conscience is clear, I didn’t vote for them

Casdon Mon 09-Sept-24 08:06:34

Shall we wait to see if this actually happens rather than raising anxiety by bigging up an urban myth?

We don’t know if it will happen, whether there will be any mitigating actions, when the implementation date might be if it does happen, whether it might apply to all age groups or exclude some - etc. etc. some people must be stressed with worry about things that may not happen, and Gransnet is fanning the flames, which is wrong.

Iam64 Mon 09-Sept-24 08:34:26

There’s also the Fact that money has to be found from somewhere to rebuild the country

eggplant Mon 09-Sept-24 08:38:11

I suspect many of those who claim to be worried will not be affected in the slightest by these challenges. I suggest we go about our lives to the best of our abilities.

Jaxjacky Mon 09-Sept-24 08:54:01

Thank you GrannyGravy13 single parents will be affected too.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Sept-24 08:57:45

IF it happens.

GrannyGravy13 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:07:29

Iam64

There’s also the Fact that money has to be found from somewhere to rebuild the country

Only if you believe in handbag economics

GrannyGravy13 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:07:56

MissAdventure

IF it happens.

Which is why I started my post withIf

mae13 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:17:08

Allsorts

Sorry should have been another forum.

I beg your pardon? (Not really)

mae13 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:20:50

Doodledog

Why do you think that pensioners should be exempt from the crippling costs that the last government has landed us with? Statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in,

I see you're NOT a pensioner but ARE a Telegraph reader!
And what is your validated source for "statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in" please?

Cossy Mon 09-Sept-24 09:23:27

Let’s all not panic. All changes need to go through both the HoC and the HoL.

Let’s hold fire and wait.

Wait for the votes and the October budget.

It’s such early days, it’s seems an awful start, but let’s have just a little patience.

I’ve not forgotten the damage the last 14 years of Tory rule caused and not just to the economy.

I’m going to expect the worst, but still hope for the best.

Early days.

MissAdventure Mon 09-Sept-24 09:26:16

It's not you, grannygravy--it's the others-- grin

foxie48 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:28:08

I've no idea if the single person discount will disappear or not but when I was divorced and struggling financially I had a student lodger. It helped me and it helped him. My OH always had lodger when he was single to help with his mortgage and my daughter, who's a doctor, has always had a lodger, usually another doctor who is new to the area. We have a housing crisis, people need somewhere to live and you can get £7500 tax free to me it's a no brainer!

Mollygo Mon 09-Sept-24 09:30:01

Mae13
And what is your validated source for "statistics suggest that pensioners voted them in" please?
It said it on GN!🤣🤣🤣

GrannyGravy13 Mon 09-Sept-24 09:37:33

MissAdventure

It's not you, grannygravy--it's the others-- grin

That I am going to have on my Urn

It’s not me it’s the others!