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Recommendations for equity release firms please

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Shinamae Tue 27-May-25 20:55:37

I’m 72, in 2003 I inherited some money which I was able to buy my council house outright and also help my two eldest children get on the property ladder by giving them £30.000 each.
My youngest son who is now 30 still lives with me and his girlfriend,
I moved my bedroom downstairs downstairs a few years ago so they could have more room upstairs however that is not sufficient for them really it’s really cramped and now I would like to help him get on the property ladder.
The house is worth about £180.000 And I would like to draw down at least £80,000 to give my son £50,000, My other two children £10,000 each and £10,000 for me
I know that probably when I die, there won’t be anything left for them, but I would rather they have it now, especially Billy to get on the property ladder
I would want to live in the house and not pay any money just to have the house sold when I die so any advice would be gratefully received..
I have no intention of ever going into a care home and have things planned for my exit from this green and pleasant land.
I have discussed it with my older children and they are fine with me doing it and understand why I want to do it.

M0nica Tue 27-May-25 21:20:41

Shinamae I do not think anyone ever intends to go into a care home, but sometimes events run faster than we can, and by the time we need one we can no longer make decisions for ourselves.

When we took out equity release we just went to the Natitonwide, which is our bank and had been our mortgagor. It is the company granting the equity release who decide how much you can borrow. As you are still quite young, they may limit you to 25-35% of the houses current value.

Marg75 Tue 27-May-25 21:35:10

You have to go through an advisor now, Key is an excellent company. They will charge a fee but will get you the lender offering the best interest rates and also a solicitor to check everything before you proceed with equity release.

Madmeg Tue 27-May-25 21:46:50

As MOnica says, the amount they will let you draw down might be quite a lot less than you are planning.

I wouldn't worry overmuch about Care Fees. At current fees of about £1,000 a week (which is not uncommon) it wouldn't last for long anyway, and Care Fees are likely to rise much faster than inflation, interest rates or house prices.

LOUISA1523 Tue 27-May-25 22:02:39

You won't get 80k if your house is only worth 180k ....you would be lucky to get half that .

Silverbrooks Wed 28-May-25 09:23:41

You are talking about a Lifetime Mortgage. You are already aware that this could swallow all the equity in your home so there is nothing to leave when you die.

Generally, the interest rate charged is at least 2% above Bank of Engand base rate and may be fixed for life. Money Release says that current lowest rate is 6.29%. (Compare ordinary mortgages which are currently charged at around 4.5%)

Always check whether the rate can be renegotiated if the base rate falls substantially, as it did after the crash of 2008 and remained historically low for 14 years until 2022.

You need to do your sums and be aware of how compound interest on lifetime mortgages mounts up very quickly. Use a spreadsheet.

Money Release say plans start from age 55 when you can release a maximum of 27.5% of your property's value. On average, for each birthday, you can release an extra 1%. Aound 45% would give you what you want. Generally, the closer to the maximum available to you which you wish to release, the higher the interest rate.

www.moneyrelease.co.uk/Equity-Release/Max-Release-Calculator/

Be realistic about what your home is worth. Equity release companies will happily overvalue properties if the applicant wants to borrow more than the age-related percentage would allow, but that will produce false projections of what your property could be worth 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the line, skewing the future debt to value ratio.

Assuming you could borrow £80,000, my charts shows how the debt would grow. At 6.29%, in 20 years time, you would owe over £270,000. An extra one percent would take that to over £325,000.

Something to be very aware of is that there comes a point very early on with lifetime mortgages where you may not be able to afford to downsize if the lender will not agree to transfer the debt to another property.

Say, in ten years time, when you are 82, you’d like to move to a small flat. Say house prices have increased by an even 5% a year over the preceding ten years. Your house in now worth £280,000 but you already owe £148,000 - £68,000 more than you borrowed on just £80,000.

That leaves you with only £132,000 before any early repayment charge is added. These can be punative. In ten years time, a flat you could now buy now for say £100,000, would cost £155,000.

Without other resources, you don’t now have enough equity to buy a smaller place unless the lender agrees to transfer the debt to the new property - which they might not do. The longer you stay in the original mortgaged property, the more money they make. It isn’t in their interest to let you transfer the debt to a lower valued property. This is because the the amount you have to repay on lifetime mortgages is usually capped to the eventual sale price on death.

I’m not saying don’t do it but make sure you know what you are agreeing to. Ask to see a dummy standard contract so you see exactly what’s the terms are before you get too far in what can be a costly process even at the outset with arrangement, valuation and legal fees.

Equity release isn’t the unregulated bandit country that it used to be 20 years ago but there are still pitfalls. I have seen contracts where the lender tightly controls what you can do to the property; can foreclose on the loan if they do not consider you are maintaining the property well enough (which can be a problem in older age), can restrict who lives with you and can even dictate whether or not you need residential care. (I know you say that isn’t what you want but thinking can change.)

I know of a case where someone wanted to sell their home, repay the debt and move into residential care. The equity release company tried to block it as they did not consider the support she needed for daily living activities (DLA) warranted being in care. In other words they wanted her to stay in her home until she died so they could make more money. You only have to look at how the debt accumulates in those last years to see why. It was challenged and they relented but that’s the kind of thing someone could be up against in the future.

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 09:31:42

Thank you all….

Whitewavemark2 Wed 28-May-25 09:32:13

Good stuff silverbrooks

Cossy Wed 28-May-25 09:36:33

Good luck x

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 09:38:32

If I can’t release at least 75,000 I won’t be doing it at all…

SporeRB Wed 28-May-25 10:09:08

Yorkshire Building Society offers first time buyers’ mortgages with £5k deposit.

Have a look at this link
www.ybs.co.uk/mortgages/5k-deposit-mortgage

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 10:13:51

SporeRB

Yorkshire Building Society offers first time buyers’ mortgages with £5k deposit.

Have a look at this link
www.ybs.co.uk/mortgages/5k-deposit-mortgage

Thank you..😁

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 10:15:50

LOUISA1523

You won't get 80k if your house is only worth 180k ....you would be lucky to get half that .

Half is £90.000….😬

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 10:17:59

Marg75

You have to go through an advisor now, Key is an excellent company. They will charge a fee but will get you the lender offering the best interest rates and also a solicitor to check everything before you proceed with equity release.

Thank you so much for that, I have just spoken to a very nice lady at Key and somebody is going to ring me Friday and go through all my options and that is free and then if I’m eligible they will send somebody out to look at the house 🤗

alastairlyon Wed 28-May-25 14:18:37

Go to a broker who can access the whole market. I would suggest age partnership who do just this - 08000 746 345.

www.age partnership.co.uk

That way you will get a provider who has a product to most closely match your needs

alastairlyon Wed 28-May-25 14:22:00

and you should get around 50 % of the house value= + or - £80,000

M0nica Wed 28-May-25 14:29:04

alastairlyon

and you should get around 50 % of the house value= + or - £80,000

At 73, when she could have a life expectancy of another 15 or more years? I very much doubt it.

Marg75 Wed 28-May-25 15:58:27

Shinamae, Key are very good, I hope you get the answer you're looking for. They will certainly look after you.

Freya5 Wed 28-May-25 16:08:55

Silverbrooks

You are talking about a Lifetime Mortgage. You are already aware that this could swallow all the equity in your home so there is nothing to leave when you die.

Generally, the interest rate charged is at least 2% above Bank of Engand base rate and may be fixed for life. Money Release says that current lowest rate is 6.29%. (Compare ordinary mortgages which are currently charged at around 4.5%)

Always check whether the rate can be renegotiated if the base rate falls substantially, as it did after the crash of 2008 and remained historically low for 14 years until 2022.

You need to do your sums and be aware of how compound interest on lifetime mortgages mounts up very quickly. Use a spreadsheet.

Money Release say plans start from age 55 when you can release a maximum of 27.5% of your property's value. On average, for each birthday, you can release an extra 1%. Aound 45% would give you what you want. Generally, the closer to the maximum available to you which you wish to release, the higher the interest rate.

www.moneyrelease.co.uk/Equity-Release/Max-Release-Calculator/

Be realistic about what your home is worth. Equity release companies will happily overvalue properties if the applicant wants to borrow more than the age-related percentage would allow, but that will produce false projections of what your property could be worth 5, 10, 15, 20 years down the line, skewing the future debt to value ratio.

Assuming you could borrow £80,000, my charts shows how the debt would grow. At 6.29%, in 20 years time, you would owe over £270,000. An extra one percent would take that to over £325,000.

Something to be very aware of is that there comes a point very early on with lifetime mortgages where you may not be able to afford to downsize if the lender will not agree to transfer the debt to another property.

Say, in ten years time, when you are 82, you’d like to move to a small flat. Say house prices have increased by an even 5% a year over the preceding ten years. Your house in now worth £280,000 but you already owe £148,000 - £68,000 more than you borrowed on just £80,000.

That leaves you with only £132,000 before any early repayment charge is added. These can be punative. In ten years time, a flat you could now buy now for say £100,000, would cost £155,000.

Without other resources, you don’t now have enough equity to buy a smaller place unless the lender agrees to transfer the debt to the new property - which they might not do. The longer you stay in the original mortgaged property, the more money they make. It isn’t in their interest to let you transfer the debt to a lower valued property. This is because the the amount you have to repay on lifetime mortgages is usually capped to the eventual sale price on death.

I’m not saying don’t do it but make sure you know what you are agreeing to. Ask to see a dummy standard contract so you see exactly what’s the terms are before you get too far in what can be a costly process even at the outset with arrangement, valuation and legal fees.

Equity release isn’t the unregulated bandit country that it used to be 20 years ago but there are still pitfalls. I have seen contracts where the lender tightly controls what you can do to the property; can foreclose on the loan if they do not consider you are maintaining the property well enough (which can be a problem in older age), can restrict who lives with you and can even dictate whether or not you need residential care. (I know you say that isn’t what you want but thinking can change.)

I know of a case where someone wanted to sell their home, repay the debt and move into residential care. The equity release company tried to block it as they did not consider the support she needed for daily living activities (DLA) warranted being in care. In other words they wanted her to stay in her home until she died so they could make more money. You only have to look at how the debt accumulates in those last years to see why. It was challenged and they relented but that’s the kind of thing someone could be up against in the future.

Thank you an excellent insight. Explained very clearly, and for me very offputting. All I have is tied up with my house, as it is with many others. Can't do anything with it unless you sell and then rent, even more precarious nowadays.

M0nica Wed 28-May-25 16:19:56

Silverbrooks, an excellent post. I would like to add that with an equity release, the homeowner remains responsible for the care and maintenance of their property, including repairs, insurance, and council tax. The equity release provider will expect the property to be maintained to a reasonable standard, and may carry out repairs themselves or charge the homeowner if the property is not maintained to a satisfactory standard.

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 18:50:38

M0nica

*Silverbrooks*, an excellent post. I would like to add that with an equity release, the homeowner remains responsible for the care and maintenance of their property, including repairs, insurance, and council tax. The equity release provider will expect the property to be maintained to a reasonable standard, and may carry out repairs themselves or charge the homeowner if the property is not maintained to a satisfactory standard.

Monica, I am aware that I will be responsible for the upkeep of the property and that is not a problem

Shinamae Wed 28-May-25 18:51:55

alastairlyon

Go to a broker who can access the whole market. I would suggest age partnership who do just this - 08000 746 345.

www.age partnership.co.uk

That way you will get a provider who has a product to most closely match your needs

Thank you I will certainly contact them. It is wise. I think to get several quotes at least three….

Thisismyname1953 Wed 28-May-25 21:37:24

A friend of mine sold her house and because she was then homeless , the Locsl Council gave her a one bedroom bungalow to suit her needs .
It may not be possible but worth looking into by telling them that her house is totally unsuitable . Can’t do the stairs . No downstairs bathroom. Nobody else in the house . The house is too much to maintain etc etc .

M0nica Thu 29-May-25 07:16:46

Thisismyname1953

A friend of mine sold her house and because she was then homeless , the Locsl Council gave her a one bedroom bungalow to suit her needs .
It may not be possible but worth looking into by telling them that her house is totally unsuitable . Can’t do the stairs . No downstairs bathroom. Nobody else in the house . The house is too much to maintain etc etc .

Your friend was incredibly lucky. On Sunday, at our local Boot Sale we were talking to an elderly man, late 70s, who had to leave the family home when his marriage broke up. He has been on the council waiting list for nearly 5 years. He is paying £1,200 to rent a one bedroomed flat, but has to get out because his landlady wants to sell the house.

He can find nothing to rent below £1,500 a month and despite having spent his whole life in the local area, everything the council has offered him are in areas between 50-100 miles away, with no help with transporting himslef and his posessions to this remote location.

Sago Thu 29-May-25 07:39:38

Thisismyname1953

A friend of mine sold her house and because she was then homeless , the Locsl Council gave her a one bedroom bungalow to suit her needs .
It may not be possible but worth looking into by telling them that her house is totally unsuitable . Can’t do the stairs . No downstairs bathroom. Nobody else in the house . The house is too much to maintain etc etc .

To deliberately make yourself homeless and ask for the council to house you or to lie/exaggerate on a form to benefit is fraud.