Caught speeding

Glad you have made up your mind crazyH, and I agree with your decision . It would be completely wrong to have lied about this for so many reasons.

crazyH

Thanks all - I feel sooooo much better now after all your sensible advice.
No, I will NOT be lying (is it lieing or lying) for him and will not take on his points. As you all said, he will have to learn by his mistakes.
My daughter (divorced) works so hard for them. She did buy him a little car, which he has to share with his younger sister (who has just passed her driving test) . She has a job, a few miles away, involves changing 2 trains. That’s why I agreed to let him borrow my car so that his sister can use his car for work.
Thanks again you lovely people …

Investigate the black boxes, I think insurance companies provide them. Tell him that the extra insurance he pays for the use of your car could be reduced if he drives carefully and sticks to the rules of the road!

I presume he is paying the extra insurance?

If this is a first offence, he can opt to do "Speeding awareness course" with no points. But if he's all ready has points, it's not applicable.
I did one earlier this year.

Yes, you are doing the right thing.
I’m wonder if he was offered the choice to do the speed awareness course. If he wasn’t and it’s his first offence that may indicate that he was a fair way above the limit.

If this had ended up in court the photographic evidence would probably have shown that it was not you driving and led to further problems. I suggest you ask for the photographic evidence to see if it shows the driver.
In any event are absolutely right to name your grandson on the form.

Beware of the black box solution if you don't want one...

Had it been me - well I would have so wanted to. However, would not have done as you could end up in prison for lying.

100% right to tell the truth. As others have said it is a criminal offence to lie and is easily caught out on camera.

I don't quite understand why anyone feels the need to cover for someone (who has already been driving for 4 years, after all).

Like other GNs here, I think that you did absolutely the right thing. Years ago, I think that maybe people could "get away with it" (I don't condone this and I never did). However, as has been pointed out, these days the traffic cameras can identify who the driver is - or isn't!

You did the right thing, as others have said, it’s a criminal offence. Vicky Price and Chris Hune were convicted and prison followed

Young inexperienced drivers often speed. He needs to learn the lessons herev

Agree with others, you did the right and moral thing.

Best be prepared for a hike in your insurance when you renew next year. We were hit a couple of years ago despite it was a no claim / not our fault incident.

Very few of us never exceed speed limits most get away with it, if you get caught accept the penalty, never ever take points for someone else, very often a camera will show the driver at the wheel.

I wouldn't take points for anyone

We do not, of course, know what speed he was driving at. I understand, possibly incorrectly that the police allow a leeway of about 10% to allow for discrepancies in speedometers.

So this person may only have been driving a couple of miles over the speed limit, and also only for a very short period of time. We do not know, so we should refrain from assuming he was way over the limit and driving recklessly.

Another reason CrazyH should not take the points is that should she accrue any points herself and/or he does it again she could end up losing her licence. Should circumstances make her the sole chauffeur this could be difficult. I was the main driver for my disabled son and I was very conscious that if I lost my licence he would have no one to transport him during the day. I was very careful not to exceed speed limits as a consequence.

Never lie in cases like this, or any criminal offence.You did the right thing.

Some years ago in a busy part of London a car shot out of a side street and drove into me doing some damage. the car was being driven by a young woman. I was driving my DH's company car, which I was insued to drive. We did the usual eschange of details.

A day later the woman'ss hsuband rang and asked me if I would put his name down as driver in the incident, not his wife's. It seems her car was out of action and she borrowed her husbands car, which she wasn't insured to drive, to make a very short journey to collect something. Unfortunately she had an accident.

I understood their problem, but said'no' very firmly. It made no difference to me, nor my insurance claim, and I had some sympathy for the mess they were in, but I was driving a car that was not mine, but had permission to drive and even if I had been tempted, if I was found out, my DH's employer might well kick up a fuss and that could have affected DH's job.

I wouldn't lend my car to anyone.
especially not a boy racer.
Speed kills.
Kill your speed.

welbeck

I wouldn't lend my car to anyone.
especially not a boy racer.
Speed kills.
Kill your speed.

Lots of people get fined for driving only a few mph over the speed limit - they're not necessarily reckless drivers.

The trouble is if they get away with a few mph it may steadily increase. People in my neck of the woods drive like maniacs, pulling all sorts of crazy stunts.

There was a case recently of a woman who was losing her licence and pleaded that as she was disabled she needed her car to get around. Well, as far as I am concerned, if you really need your car you take care to not lose your licence. Life is full of things we have no control over but driving lawfully is not one of those things.

MiniMoon

You did the right thing. When I was caught speeding , I was offered the choice of a fine and points, or take a speed awareness course which involved a fee, and a day in a classroom. I did the speed awareness course ti avoid the points. I actually enjoyed it and learned a few things I didn't know.

I was caught speeding (32mph on an unfamiliar road with an undeclared 30mph limit). Anyway, I too took up the option of attending the speed awareness course. I enjoyed it and learned from it well. You have to attend a centre near where you committed your speeding violation. Is this an option for your GS case?

Wait till the OP gets all the parking fines
Congestion charges
Bus lane contraventions etc
That are yet to arrive in the post.
Should the golden boy be excused all accountability.
Dear old gran can take it on the nose and pay up...

I don't believe it's true Magenta that
You have to attend a centre near where you committed your speeding violation.

I certainly didn't go to my nearest centre.
(They are all different prices so it's worth checking a few.)

I think there were online ones too.

NotSpaghetti

I don't believe it's true Magenta that
You have to attend a centre near where you committed your speeding violation.

I certainly didn't go to my nearest centre.
(They are all different prices so it's worth checking a few.)

I think there were online ones too.

I did my speed course on Zoom, well Teams actually. Zoom would have been funnier!