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Gazundering in house sales

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NittWitt Tue 04-Aug-26 09:33:12

A problem in England, Wales and N Ireland, but not Scotland, because of different law.
Gazundering - when a buyer suddenly reduces their offer just before a house sale goes through.
Seemingly most sellers accept it and then gazunder the next person in the chain.
I hope I'd be stubborn enough to refuse, if I was in that situation.

uk.yahoo.com/news/rampant-rise-gazundering-homebuyers-cutting-050047274.html


uk.yahoo.com/news/rampant-rise-gazundering-homebuyers-cutting-050047274.html

Fallingstar Tue 04-Aug-26 09:41:30

As it says in the article this is down to a very weak market at the moment and I can believe that. Even here in London properties for sale are sticking, there are no more bidding wars with properties sold within a matter of days, now properties are still for sale many months later.
I imagine this is down to a hike in stamp duty that Starmer rubber stamped early in his tenure as PM, the cost of the living crisis, and hikes in the cost of getting work done on a property as well as Landlords saturating the market with rentals for sale, again down to Starmer’s legislation.
Personally I would balk at doing this under any circumstances, if we couldn’t make the agreed price for a property we would just not go for it. Is a horrible practice.

fancythat Tue 04-Aug-26 09:41:51

Surveys are done at the wrong time in the whole process. In my opinion.

Fallingstar Tue 04-Aug-26 09:45:50

fancythat

Surveys are done at the wrong time in the whole process. In my opinion.

Agree.
They should be done in the beginning then a price agreed and a deposit paid.
I believe is like this in Scotland.

Meandrogrog Tue 04-Aug-26 09:49:52

Fallingstar

fancythat

Surveys are done at the wrong time in the whole process. In my opinion.

Agree.
They should be done in the beginning then a price agreed and a deposit paid.
I believe is like this in Scotland.

That makes much more sense and is far less stressful.

NittWitt Tue 04-Aug-26 09:50:32

Exactly Fallingstar.
It astonishes me that the house selling/buying systems other than Scotland seem so sloppy.

Usedtobeblonde Tue 04-Aug-26 09:54:31

I think it should be that the vendor has the survey done and then the price asked can reflect the findings.
The prospective buyer can the decide their offer having seen the report.

Chestnut Tue 04-Aug-26 09:56:44

Why are people so despicable now? Clearly this is a 'thing' and becoming acceptable practice amongst the cutthroat property world where dog eats dog. Honestly, I feel society has lost its moral compass.

Not everyone can afford to take that drop in price, so this could have a life changing impact on sellers and others in the chain if their purchase and sale don't go through.

Aveline Tue 04-Aug-26 09:57:36

Even in Scotland problems can arise post purchase. After I bought and paid for a flat it turned out that the building it was in needed a £1million roof repair. My lawyer contacted the seller and we finally accepted a decent sized refund.
A friend is in a similar position but from the sellers side of things. He's having to return a large sum to the purchaser if the house he's selling.
Methinks surveyors are not doing a good enough job!

MaizieD Tue 04-Aug-26 09:59:32

One could say that a house is only worth what someone is prepared to pay for it. We've got too much in the habit of expecting to make a profit from a house sale as prices have risen and risen to ridiculous levels.

Who remembers gazumping in the 1970s/80s when prices went up and up?

I think we have to regard 'gazundering' as an adjustment in the market, however unwelcome it is to some. If prices are coming down it must be a relief to people who want to buy but have been locked out by the cost of living crisis, high prices and high interest rates.

I do think that the English system of house purchasing needs changing, there is so much uncertainty involved. The Scottish one is much better.

Tuliptree Tue 04-Aug-26 10:08:35

The Blair Government was going to bring in the Home Sellers Pack which the vendor would have to provide to prospective purchasers- survey, searches , guarantees etc. It eventually got dropped after opposition from iirc particularly surveyors and solicitors.

Lathyrus3 Tue 04-Aug-26 10:13:13

I’m not sure I would trust a survey provided by the seller. Even if I could sue afterwards.

My only experience of buying in Scotland d was when my sister was trying to buy there. She bid for over 20 properties in sealed bids and was outbid each time,

In desperation she bid all she had and ‘won” the final property.
She found out later it was £20,000 more than the next lowest bid.

A lot of money and almost two years of stress and disappointment, if not despair.

We certainly need reform though, perhaps some kind of initial contract at the point of offer and acceptance and a non-returnable deposit if either side breaks that?

Tuliptree Tue 04-Aug-26 10:33:45

‘I’m not sure I would trust a survey provided by the seller. Even if I could sue afterwards.’

Yes I’d wondered about that. The surveyor would have to be accredited by RICS and obviously the buyer could commission their own survey. But at least it would put issues upfront before the potential buyer made an offer. It would save all that time waiting for searches etc

Lathyrus3 Tue 04-Aug-26 10:45:15

Searches are a bit different. They rely on the efficiency of the Council and other bodies. Would you trust a seller not to “lose” something negative?

Tuliptree Tue 04-Aug-26 10:56:45

A lot of this type of pack could be online so the la could provide a password protected link to the sesrch results for the property that any potential buyer could access and/or their solicitor . There must be something better than the current system