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GigiGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 23-May-14 10:13:15

Hello

As most of you will know, we've got a sister site, Mumsnet

And we started thinking that GNers actually have have a wealth of experience in areas that some MNers may only just be starting to think about, or experience personally, and we thought it might be interesting (and, maybe even fun to open up a conversation between the members of the two sites on some of these topics.

One issue that leapt out at us (or, perhaps more accurately, sidled up to us gradually as we entered the prime of life) is the perimenopause: a period either side of the transition into the menopause, when women may start to experience symptoms such as irregular periods, sleeplessness, changes in sex drive and vaginal dryness/itching, emotional ups and downs and so on. (Or may not, of course!)

Lots of GNers have probably been there, done that (and got the t-shirt!) so far as the menopause is concerned, so we thought this might be a useful opportunity for MNers to ask some them any questions they may have, and for members of both sites to share some experience, hard-won knowledge and support.

Of course there will be GNers who have yet to experience either, and MNers who know lots about the menopause and perimenopause themselves, so you should all feel free to ask, answer, or both.

There's a parallel thread running on Mumsnet; we'll cross-post some questions and answers between the two, but do get yourself a Mumsnet log-in and pop over to say hello if you fancy it.

So... what advice could you share about the perimenopause, and wished you'd known earlier?

annodomini Tue 03-Jun-14 20:03:19

There is nothing inevitable about the menopause. Some women get through it with minimal symptoms - I was one of them (without HRT) and perhaps you will be as well. If you get worried about it beforehand, you will be more likely to be anxious when the time comes. Meanwhile, if you must anticipate it, you should have a word with a doctor - preferably a female one - and discuss your options.

harrigran Wed 04-Jun-14 00:01:06

Agree with anno, nobody talked about it at home, didn't know what to expect and didn't have any real problems.

JessM Wed 04-Jun-14 06:08:34

Inevitable for some but not for lucky others anno - but I agree no point stressing out about it in advance. grin

jinglbellsfrocks Wed 04-Jun-14 22:58:52

Has it finished then?

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 05-Jun-14 09:33:51

No jingl grin

From MorrisZapp on Mumsnet:

Can anybody describe what happens during a hot flush? If it happens at work, do you have to hide in the loos? Do you need to lie down?

LucyGransnet (GNHQ) Thu 05-Jun-14 09:41:09

And from StackALee:

Sorry to post without reading the rest of the thread to see if my questions have been answered.

I have had a short cycle for the last ten years (24/5 days), had a baby through IVF three years ago, and am now getting cycles which vary from between 21 days (Sobs) to 30 days. My periods are REALLY heavy.

I wondered if this is a symptom of the peri-menopause?

And lazypepper:

How does your skin go after menopause?

Having suffered with varying degrees of acne since being a teenager - I am hoping for some reprieve once i get into or past menopause?

Am currently 46 - and still have the skin of a teenager, but with a few added wrinkles and crepiness. I mean to say - if you have an oily skin, does it dry out after menopause?

Elegran Thu 05-Jun-14 09:51:16

MorrisZapp It varies from one person to another, in intensity and in how often it strikes, so a description is a bit vague. Mostly they only last a few minutes each.

It is like an embarrassed blush that covers the whole body, bringing a lot of blood to the skin and making you feel very hot, as though you are in a room with the heating turned up unbearably high, with no chance of leaving.

It is not necessarily obvious to anyone else, so if you can ignore it and concentrate on the job in hand, no need to hide in the loos. If not, going and splashing water on the face (and/or down the cleavage, if that is feasible) can help. Keeping a bottle of water to hand and drinking a good slug can help to make you feel cooler, so can wearing layers of light clothes so that you can remove some (don't strip off completely though - that can lead to further complications socially)

At home you can open all the windows and strip off as much as you like, in that order if your windows are overlooked, take a cold shower, have an iced drink.

Oldgreymare Thu 05-Jun-14 10:14:49

To lazypepper..... I had a tendency to greasy skin particularly the 'T' zone, since the menopause my skin has dried significantly. My friends tell me I ought to use moisturisers (some of you will be throwing your hands up in horror, that I don't) but, since as a teenager, a tendency to become spotty if I put anything on my face, I just cannot get the hang of it!
I have, tho, graduated to a 'dry skin face wash' from a brand which offers 3 types.
I do use a lotion on my legs which have also become very dry.....
GNHQ..... can I mention brand names?

JessM Thu 05-Jun-14 20:15:23

You just feel too bloody hot Morriszapp and convinced the room is too warm. In work you mutter "is it hot in here or is it me?" and elegantly peel off your outer layer (which needs to undo down the front - struggling to escape from a wooly jumper tends to make one bad tempered and a tad panicky).
Or if your corporate culture permits it you say "Hang on a minute chaps, I'm having another sodding hot flush - can we just take a 2 minute break while i go and stick my head under the tap" smile
I reckon they are good for the complexion - that extra oxygen etc pumping into your skin. smile

Elegran Thu 05-Jun-14 20:19:24

You save a lot on central heating and blankets too. Until the OH complains. He won't like it when you decline a nice cosy cuddle either.

annodomini Thu 05-Jun-14 20:26:40

Hot flushes were the only symptom I had, but it was a hot summer and I could never be sure if it was me or the weather - and they only happened in bed at night! In any case, they were over by the time autumn came along.

GigiGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 06-Jun-14 12:36:05

Oldgreymare

To lazypepper..... I had a tendency to greasy skin particularly the 'T' zone, since the menopause my skin has dried significantly. My friends tell me I ought to use moisturisers (some of you will be throwing your hands up in horror, that I don't) but, since as a teenager, a tendency to become spotty if I put anything on my face, I just cannot get the hang of it!
I have, tho, graduated to a 'dry skin face wash' from a brand which offers 3 types.
I do use a lotion on my legs which have also become very dry.....
GNHQ..... can I mention brand names?

Yes, brand names are fine if it's a recommendation.

GigiGransnet (GNHQ) Fri 06-Jun-14 12:43:46

Lazypepper from Mumsnet

"I didn't phrase my question very well. Sorry.

I meant to say - if you have an oily skin, does it dry out after menopause?"

and

thefarside

"My skin started drying out during the perimenopause - mid 40s onwards. I am now 52 and rarely if ever get spots, plus my skin is smoother than some women my age, I think because it was always so oily.

I'm still having periods but the last one was a couple of months ago so I'm wondering if this is it. I suddenly started on the hot flushes about a month ago. They seem to be triggered by the usual things (spicy food, wine sad, hot drinks) but also by emotion - if I feel a bit embarrassed or angry, that now seems to morph into a hot flush. They vary in intensity: sometimes they are not noticeable at all to other people, but at other times my face goes very very red. I think they are worse if I am already feeling a bit hot for external reasons like the weather or an overheated room.

One of the worst things is waking up slick with sweat, throwing off the duvet, getting cold as the sweat evaporates, getting under the duvet again, having another hot flush as a result ... and so on ... Also, during a hot flush I'm getting a horrible stinging sensation moving up the front of my body (a colleague has the same sensation but in her back). I'm having about 12 flushes a day at the moment. If it carries on like this I can see myself going for HRT even though I'm really not keen".

Judthepud2 Sat 07-Jun-14 21:40:17

LucyGransNet my experience with hot flushes is that you suddenly feel like you have been transported to a tropical country. Feels like your face is burning and sweat running down spine. I used to feel slightly queasy. Lasts only a minute and you can get used to it. Agree on drinking cool water. Try a little water spray for face from eg Boots.
At work it made me feel slightly panicky and out of control for a few moments but usually people don't notice. If they do, I found people very understanding. Nothing to be ashamed of at all. Part of the natural process. Glad I didn't take HRT as I had enough oestrogen left in my body to cause breast cancer anyway. Might have made the outcome worse for me!!

Like everything, this too will pass!!

Judthepud2 Sat 07-Jun-14 21:44:09

By the way, two of the hot flush triggers tend to be coffee and red wine. I ditched the first but not the last!! Am now able to take the coffee again with not too much problem!

rubysong Sat 07-Jun-14 22:00:37

My hot flushes usually start with a gripping sensation in the solar plexus (I think that's where it is, just under the bottom of the ribs), then the heat spreads out along blood vessels all the way to fingers and toes and especially my face. I quite often get one at around 9:30pm but not too many in the daytime now (after seven years of them). There's usually one during the night and I always seem to wake up just before it kicks in. A hot flush in the night is different from a night sweat which is, for me, just waking up covered in sweat and kicking off the covers.

GigiGransnet (GNHQ) Wed 11-Jun-14 13:56:20

Hi everyone

We just wanted to say a big thanks to everyone who contributed with advice and shared their experience here and over on the MN thread.

Next we'll have a go next at distilling all the great the wisdom you've shared.

We'll also look at doing some other 'shared' threads so watch this space [smile}

hulahoop Thu 17-Sept-15 16:12:39

I have gone through menopause early fifties but due to chemo am once again having hot flushes
Acupuncture worked to reduce amount I was having have read sage is good does anyone know if
Sage tea is good way to take it .

AnnaLee Thu 16-Mar-17 23:50:35

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