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Progynova TS Estradiol 50 patches

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Poshbec Sun 07-Jun-20 18:16:27

Does anyone have experience of using these? Have been on them for 4 weeks now, but stopped 2 days ago as body thermostat out of control (hot) & sleep really difficult as well as very tender breasts(have had to go up from a B to a C cup). Wondering if my underactive thyroid is affecting increased levels of Estradiol, &/or prediabetes blood levels(hereditary as 5’3 & fondly weigh 55kg). Also had Mirena coil fitted in February as part of HRT, but Symptoms not good since then. Any advice please?

Poshbec Mon 08-Jun-20 17:33:55

Thanks everyone for all your comments - much appreciated. Have now been able to make an appointment for blood tests for both thyroid & diabetes(think that diabetes may be aggravating this, as my last test showed up as 48, & until now, due to Covid-19 restrictions, have not been able to make a follow up appointment to get it retested). Also wonder if the Progynova 50 dosage is too high, so will ask the Dr when I get the blood results.

cupaffull Tue 09-Jun-20 00:57:13

Can I just ask please does anyone know why there are supply issues with HRT patches? Have been happily slapping on Evorel patches for 20 years since having a hysterectomy and felt perfectly well on them. Due to "supply problems" GP has changed me to daily gel application. Its messy and inconvenient and I feel totally out of sorts, thoroughly miserable in fact.
I'm so desperate I may have to fly abroad and buy some...

mande Tue 09-Jun-20 02:23:13

cupaffull
I have been able to get evorel patches since March. I had read on the internet that supplies were returning so I rang local pharmacies and found one who could get them. Perhaps you could check in your area.

Esspee Tue 09-Jun-20 08:39:55

@cupafful. Like you I’ve temporarily gone on to gel due to my implant clinic being closed and I am not happy. It seems to control the symptoms but is just a drag having to put such a lot on every single day. It must be way more expensive than my two tiny implants per year.
With implants I love that I only have to think about it twice a year instead of every single day.
May I ask you how much you use and where you were told you could spread it?

gulliver12 Tue 09-Jun-20 08:57:30

I'm 74 and have no intention of stopping HRT until I lose my marbles and can't remember to use it. Bit risky to start it later in life when there may be pre-existing vascular damage but very safe if started at the time of the menopause or soon after. After the age of 70 should ideally be parenteral (transdermal or implant) to avoid passage through the liver which increases thrombosis (clotting) risks. Also safer before 70 but more expensive for the health service. Evorel is now available again and the adhesive seems better. I think manufacturer (certainly packaging) has changed. Did initially have to cut 50s in half when it first became available again.

Toddy Tue 09-Jun-20 11:54:58

I had hysterectomy at 40 but have ovaries. Started on estradiol lowest dose at mid 50s and thought as now nearly 63 should try to wean off. Dr seemed happy when I mentioned this although I'm otherwise fit and well with no worrying family history. Anyway, been suffering again and re-thinking coming off hrt. So slowly getting back to taking regularly and will discuss with GP once I see her next!

cupaffull Tue 09-Jun-20 12:43:45

Hello Esspee, yes its just miserable having to rub on 4 pumps of the gel, then walking about for 10-20 mins while it dries on the skin so it doesn't remove most of the dosage onto your clothes.

The Evorel are so easy, and I can tell within hours if the patch dosage is running low or Im a day late in changing it. I've been on those since my 40's after much trial and error so the gel scenario came as a bit of a shock.

Fennel Tue 09-Jun-20 12:55:26

Another alternative - Vagifem which is based on estradiol.
A pessary inserted into the vagina. I'm over 80 and have been using them since I was late 50s.
With me, it was because vaginal dryness leads to UTIs.
But you do need to discuss this with your GP as it's not "one fits all."

gulliver12 Wed 10-Jun-20 09:14:36

Vagifem brilliant for local uro-genital problems. No (or insignificant) systemic absorption so no help for flushes, osteoporosis prevention, cardiovascular benefits. Does mean it can be used when the womb is still present without the need for progetogen either as Mirena or orally, combined patch or gel.

Lesley218 Fri 17-Jul-20 00:43:32

Last year I finally tried Hrt after over 5 years of no periods I coped with flushes and irritability anxiety and thought I was doing ok then I became sleep deprived worse flushes hot and cold all night and thoroughly exhausted I realized I hadn't had uninterupted sleep for nearly 2 years. I was 59 the Dr gave me Everol conti 50 patches at first it was amazing going to bed and actually falling asleep and not waking up every hour or no sleep at all was wonderful, my libido improved plus mood just felt great. After about 3 months on the patches I felt like my ovaries were coming alive I started having engorged breasts and put weight on, the bleeding started not heavy at first then by 4 months I was having a period more or less which just felt wrong at my age plus not having a period for over 5 years. Any how Dr sent me to Gynecologist had a ultra sound plus biopsi (all happened really quick was welI inpressed with health service) Everything was fine to much estrogen I reckon. The gyno said stop taking patches eat Yam and take antidepressant, which I could relate to as yam and sweet potato do have benefits, though anti depressant as it's own side affects. So after bei g off the patch for a month everything came back no sleep terrible anxiety flushes sweats etc. So I decided to chop my patch in half and see how I go. So coming up to five months now no bleeding so far, sleeping ok no flushes or irritibilty anxiety, but my breasts have grown again and I have put on 1/2 a stone maybe more though I am working from home and In Lockdown and less exercise. So I thin k I will stick with it I will turn 60 soon I just worry is it good for me will I get cancer should I stop and live with the menapausal symptoms , though I do feel brighter and laugh more, the weight In crease is a issue. I will carry on and see.